From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51661: 29.0.50; What is "interactive Lisp closure"? Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2021 14:55:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87wnlkhxxx.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83o86w84ul.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="979"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 51661@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 07 14:57:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mjifh-000AdJ-7d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 14:57:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45698 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjiff-0000L5-Rn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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I think that's because your emoji.el isn't byte-compiled? Hm... mine's not byte-compiled either? Do we have to add some incantation somewhere to get newly-added .el files to be byte-compiled? > Is this the same "closure"? Yes. > What is special about this command that we say "closure" there? Do we > have to confuse users by showing that in the Help buffers? C-h f will say that about all uncompiled functions that use lexical binding, I think? So there's nothing special about it. (If it didn't use lexical binding it'd say "lambda" instead of "closure", I guess.) I have no opinion on whether this distinction (lambda/closure) is meaningful to expose to the user in `C-h f'. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no