From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51876: 28.0.60; Confusing prompt for setting a bookmark Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:12:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87wnl85xjs.fsf@gnus.org> References: <838rxp2rpg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22500"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 51876@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 09:13:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtah-0005b3-IP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:13:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42368 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtaf-0001Xn-M8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:13:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtaQ-0001Ui-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtaQ-0003sv-Bb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtaP-00064W-Pu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:13:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51876-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51876.163705035423292 (code B ref 51876); Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2021 08:12:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtZy-00063c-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:12:34 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtZw-00063J-Er for 51876@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:12:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1Umqvjld22L48/YHNsbTSNRRxMO+c0xejeC4dpossbM=; b=mNn/ck8DNFUB3j/Xk2HG4VRlBp 0XDCkg9WzeIW8dVyZAGnuaGoUaO+fY/eLS2U1HFMIMbkeLFQ0FeV6jbAJWgabSObatn1qUmrGXNlv KvaSkHSqlZzUM1ikBHs7VO/NaGIzC++CSw+btK4oNF02dZ9Jt8CqMfSZl2yYyjzhDIBA=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmtZn-0003ts-HM; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:12:26 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Archives: The Early Years (3)_: "Intro To Sugar Mountain" In-Reply-To: <838rxp2rpg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 15 Nov 2021 20:34:35 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220100 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > This prompt is confusing: it doesn't make it clear that Emacs is > prompting for the _name_ of the bookmark. The word "name" (or > anything to that effect) doesn't appear anywhere within the prompt, > and the suggested default, which is just the file name, makes the > intent even harder to guess, because it sounds like Emacs asks whether > to set a bookmark in this file. Yes. > I also think the "unconditionally" part should be removed: it makes me > wonder why Emacs made a point of mentioning that at all. It also > makes the prompt longer, thus harder to understand. It's because of this: --- With a prefix arg (non-nil NO-OVERWRITE), do not overwrite any existing bookmark that has the same name as NAME, but instead push the new bookmark onto the bookmark alist. --- Perhaps (if no-overwrite "Set bookmark" "Set bookmark unconditionally"))) should be (if no-overwrite "Append bookmark" "Set bookmark"))) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no