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Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 14:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55540 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo patch Original-Received: via spool by 55540-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55540.167241050223389 (code B ref 55540); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 14:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55540) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2022 14:28:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBGMv-00065B-IT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:28:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-108-mta112.mxroute.com ([136.175.108.112]:45333) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pBGMt-00064u-HA for 55540@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-111-mta2.mxroute.com ([136.175.111.2] filter006.mxroute.com) (Authenticated sender: mN4UYu2MZsgR) by mail-108-mta112.mxroute.com (ZoneMTA) with ESMTPSA id 185636ee8e2000011e.001 for <55540@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 14:28:11 +0000 X-Zone-Loop: 59a47d8720f63a44597454681eceda07d7962316f399 X-Originating-IP: [136.175.111.2] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=neverwas.me ; s=x; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=af5o4NGCQf/kzfvZSGpHTyO6JCcGLwZTBIi26pIBKww=; b=g3EhOnUPH/gY8LnIM541Ju7ppd jV8gV9IjXnPzqUUQEFhFWdi5zwBrFB4auAUlQzTVpRUEpSVDqLo5ASpNJcSiGLJJQyF63RvnjMjxb ryvfQkArTlMwcNvIKQLEazjvt+i30BHHzcdfieXDC0p63Co3i2FuQqiG7j5k+A4qGX0Ehby4YNc0a gvg29qdqnL0uJcGujmq5UOn8CbwDLVv2w+nCkF6qCcEexH+i+8XTkHAvnfgohLUYWhqhPyngzipEe vz91Yrz2G8rQb7vArQXa5wfiXj1sQ0cK/3n80x+ebiAX5FvFojKF+wM8Ruzt9LnfrX0NyuRIQ9qjk +eCYxqGA==; In-Reply-To: <87pmg77tpc.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Wed, 07 Sep 2022 05:24:15 +0200") X-Authenticated-Id: masked@neverwas.me X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252122 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > J.P. wrote: > >> I believe changing the default for `erc-join-buffer' (alone) >> to `bury' is the easiest way to achieve that. > > `erc-join-buffer' sounds like a command/function BTW. Indeed. And the "join" part makes it sound like it's only supposed to affect channels. Therefore, I think this should be aliased to something like `erc-buffer-display' because it also determines how server buffers are shown. Doing so would maybe also aid in discoverability by bringing it more in line with `erc-query-display' and `erc-reconnect-display'. The same goes for `erc-auto-query', which could likewise become `erc-receive-query-display' or similar. We should also probably mention somewhere that the new default value of `bury' doesn't put existing buffers at the end of the buffer list. Moreover, I'm thinking that having `bury' as the default for interactive invocations (which is now the case) may be too stark a proposition since the only visual feedback afforded new users is a blip in the mode line. (FWIW, one user on Libera has recently complained about this, going so far as to label it a bug.) Anyway, the "penultimate" patch in the POC portion of the set proposed in bug#60428 [1] incorporates some of these ideas. If anyone's interested, please check it out. Thanks. [1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=60428