* bug#62289: 29.0.60; eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA
@ 2023-03-20 8:56 Michael Albinus
2023-03-22 13:30 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2023-03-20 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 62289
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The test eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA:
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Test eglot-test-tramp-test-2 backtrace:
signal(end-of-file ("Error reading from stdin"))
tramp-error((tramp-file-name "mock" nil nil "55ffaf6b25da" nil "/tmp
tramp-signal-hook-function(end-of-file ("Error reading from stdin"))
yes-or-no-p("Lock file on local temporary directory, do you wan...")
tramp-handle-lock-file("/mock:55ffaf6b25da:/tmp/eglot--fixtureF9ktLK
apply(tramp-handle-lock-file "/mock:55ffaf6b25da:/tmp/eglot--fixture
tramp-sh-file-name-handler(lock-file "/mock:55ffaf6b25da:/tmp/eglot-
apply(tramp-sh-file-name-handler lock-file "/mock:55ffaf6b25da:/tmp/
tramp-file-name-handler(lock-file "/mock:55ffaf6b25da:/tmp/eglot--fi
insert("p ")
(let (c-notifs) (advice-add #'jsonrpc--log-event :before #'(lambda (
(unwind-protect (let (c-notifs) (advice-add #'jsonrpc--log-event :be
(save-current-buffer (set-buffer (eglot--find-file-noselect "project
(let ((eglot-server-programs '((c-mode "clangd")))) (save-current-bu
(closure (company-candidates typescript-mode-abbrev-table typescript
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eglot--call-with-fixture((("project" ("foo.c" . "const char write_da
eglot-tests--lsp-abiding-column-1()
funcall(eglot-tests--lsp-abiding-column-1)
(let* ((tramp-remote-path (cons 'tramp-own-remote-path tramp-remote-
eglot--call-with-tramp-test(eglot-tests--lsp-abiding-column-1)
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ert--run-test-internal(#s(ert--test-execution-info :test #s(ert-test
ert-run-test(#s(ert-test :name eglot-test-tramp-test-2 :documentatio
ert-run-or-rerun-test(#s(ert--stats :selector ... :tests ... :test-m
ert-run-tests((not (or (tag :unstable) (tag :nativecomp))) #f(compil
ert-run-tests-batch((not (or (tag :unstable) (tag :nativecomp))))
ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit((not (or (tag :unstable) (tag :nativeco
eval((ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit '(not (or (tag :unstable) (tag :n
command-line-1(("-L" ":." "-l" "ert" "-l" "lisp/progmodes/eglot-test
command-line()
normal-top-level()
Test eglot-test-tramp-test-2 condition:
(end-of-file "Error reading from stdin")
FAILED 50/50 eglot-test-tramp-test-2 (1.173894 sec) at lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el:1277
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The following patch should fix it.
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diff --git a/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el b/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
index 7a90d68d213..2388cf9ef51 100644
--- a/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
+++ b/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
@@ -1261,6 +1261,7 @@ eglot--call-with-tramp-test
;; really just the local host.
(let* ((tramp-remote-path (cons 'tramp-own-remote-path tramp-remote-path))
(tramp-histfile-override t)
+ (tramp-allow-unsafe-temporary-files t)
(tramp-verbose 1)
(temporary-file-directory ert-remote-temporary-file-directory)
(default-directory temporary-file-directory))
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Best regards, Michael.
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* bug#62289: 29.0.60; eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA
2023-03-20 8:56 bug#62289: 29.0.60; eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA Michael Albinus
@ 2023-03-22 13:30 ` Michael Albinus
2023-03-28 10:45 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2023-03-22 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 62289
Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
Hi Jiao,
> The test eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA:
This still fails on EMBA.
> The following patch should fix it.
>
> diff --git a/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el b/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
> index 7a90d68d213..2388cf9ef51 100644
> --- a/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
> +++ b/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
> @@ -1261,6 +1261,7 @@ eglot--call-with-tramp-test
> ;; really just the local host.
> (let* ((tramp-remote-path (cons 'tramp-own-remote-path tramp-remote-path))
> (tramp-histfile-override t)
> + (tramp-allow-unsafe-temporary-files t)
> (tramp-verbose 1)
> (temporary-file-directory ert-remote-temporary-file-directory)
> (default-directory temporary-file-directory))
Shall I install the patch?
Best regards, Michael.
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* bug#62289: 29.0.60; eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA
2023-03-22 13:30 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2023-03-28 10:45 ` Michael Albinus
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2023-03-28 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 62289-done
Version: 29.1
Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
>> The test eglot-test-tramp-test-2 fails on EMBA:
>
> This still fails on EMBA.
>
>> The following patch should fix it.
>>
>> diff --git a/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el b/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
>> index 7a90d68d213..2388cf9ef51 100644
>> --- a/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
>> +++ b/test/lisp/progmodes/eglot-tests.el
>> @@ -1261,6 +1261,7 @@ eglot--call-with-tramp-test
>> ;; really just the local host.
>> (let* ((tramp-remote-path (cons 'tramp-own-remote-path tramp-remote-path))
>> (tramp-histfile-override t)
>> + (tramp-allow-unsafe-temporary-files t)
>> (tramp-verbose 1)
>> (temporary-file-directory ert-remote-temporary-file-directory)
>> (default-directory temporary-file-directory))
>
> Shall I install the patch?
No news is good news. I've pushed the patch to the emacs-29 branch,
closing the bug.
Best regards, Michael.
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