From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 07:18:18 +0000 Message-ID: <87wn2ilwed.fsf@localhost> References: <17b74a48-94e1-9106-cc79-d31972313910@gutov.dev> <837cujaqzq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13893"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Bastien , Dmitry Gutov , 62762@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 11 09:17:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8Ff-0003N6-Kk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 09:17:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8FU-000658-Hx; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8FS-00064x-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8FS-0002Q1-I7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8FR-0008SX-Vu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 07:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62762 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62762-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62762.168119737332458 (code B ref 62762); Tue, 11 Apr 2023 07:17:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2023 07:16:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8Ee-0008RS-Ip for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:55767) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pm8Ec-0008RD-1m for 62762@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55654240326 for <62762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 09:16:04 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1681197364; bh=5ayW2OuOORiSQgc9LC/pKcgK/aveT1OnyskK1Q2Zf28=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=eyRcOf1sWB8qdu5t7BK6SkAH5Tvs2yuCR+79/zEqW9+pTQ4p7dUGDOlhqIZS/lRcy 5dYQTDXQ+RQ9zgiADjQuXVynC1CD3FQnsuSgNwH6CCqSz2NNbXj5mTuHTwzdg6vylN DXYTyFHluClQi7i4xxMVWxqktFeRCLkbTL52ABmCPkjgtbXulwtZgBbA9EViImMZ39 JGROgt/JrlWAZoW8r6cIz2CXN0OEzlV8MB50d4KVhS7kDudff80whzWazBLv8esUJn XQABNsA47SqEqf4RxV2uJL62g5JY2QQaQcKKQ5J71p67AH1b3h0gxZceZ1d945kKQI HuV0VMfsWFXag== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PwcZW1xJhz6trm; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 09:16:02 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <837cujaqzq.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259626 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Or maybe Org folks (CC'ed) could suggest a better fix. I understand > the reasons for this behavior in Org, but none of the reasons > described in org-version.el are relevant to Emacs development, when a > new version of Org is merged. Maybe the abort could be augmented not > to produce such a drastic effect? The fact the Org error is triggered means that Emacs does not re-compile .el files that refer to macros that have been changed. See https://orgmode.org/list/jwvsfkv5s7l.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org Macros not being updated, as one may expect, may break the code using old macro expansions. So, I cannot say that Org is wrong complaining about mismatch here. In fact, we already made the check less strict to work around the same issue on ELPA. See https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87r10ey8ov.fsf@localhost/ and https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87pmfijrvw.fsf@localhost/ Maybe make bootstrap is justified then? Of course, ideally, Emacs should provide a way to handle macro dependencies. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at