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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3bcb9e8f81d0421621225f46a48ef403; Sun, 17 Mar 2024 11:55:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (ali gnu2's message of "Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:38:14 -0600") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22129 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:281761 Archived-At: ali_gnu2@emvision.com writes: > Regarding recent versions, it's not known at this time. > We only know that it works on Solaris 10, a 20 year old > system that lacks XInput2, and does not work on the latest > Solaris. Although it's possible that this worked on slightly > older versions of Solaris/sparc, I haven't tested. My unverified > hunch is that it's more likely that XInput2 never worked on > sparc, and no one noticed until emacs 29 came along. If so, > then this bug could go back a decade or so (google tells me > XInput2 was proposed in 2012). Whatever the conditions for the X server crash, please report it (or ask Rainier to do so) to the X.Org developers. Between the recent deletion of support for byte-swapping and its developers transition to only assembling Xwayland releases, there is very little love remaining in that organization for the rank-and-file of X users, and every reminder of our existence counts towards restoring some of that lost dedication. If you catch my drift. Thanks.