From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 10624@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10624: 24.0.92; default value of `dired-do-ch*'
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:50:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcfex5bx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4200B2318C4140E68FA74B61375885B9@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:37:10 -0700")
> The Emacs mark is not something that is very useful in this context,
> IMO. It's not obvious and visible.
It is visible when transient-mark-mode is enabled.
> And why use the mark only when transient-mark-mode is enabled?
Because when transient-mark-mode is enabled, it is possible
to deactivate the mark with C-g.
> That obviates use of the region for something more useful in Dired
It doesn't preclude from using the region in other Dired commands.
> What's more, if I read your code correctly, when there is no active
> mark you are still picking up the first of the marked files and using
> its data as the default.
No, you read code incorrectly. You could pay more attention to the
line with (= (length files) 1)
> 2. Minimal, easy to do now: Use the attributes of the file on the current line,
> providing them as the default for the marked files according to the particular
> command (mod time, various permission fields, etc.).
This makes sense, but it might be too confusing. For instance,
in the following scenario: type `m' to select a file, after that
point moves to the next line with an arbitrary unselected file
whose attributes will be used as the default value. This would be
unexpected.
> 3. More complex, but more useful: Let the user hit a key to "copy" the
> attributes of a given file (on the current line - the "source" file), as if to a
> clipboard. Then use those attributes for subsequent "paste" operations,
I suppose a key to copy the attributes to use as the default value
would be like `w' (`dired-copy-filename-as-kill'). It is worth thinking about.
But it has one drawback that is not too obvious.
> The point is to (a) have a reasonable source-file choice from which attributes
> are taken for the default and (b) push those attributes to the marked files as
> defaults for an operation, in a operation-pertinent way.
Using the mark in transient-mark-mode is a reasonable source-file choice
from which attributes are taken for the default, and could be added among
other possible methods.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-15 22:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-27 15:35 bug#10624: 24.0.92; default value of `dired-do-ch*' Drew Adams
2012-01-27 16:23 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-14 23:47 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-15 0:37 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-15 22:50 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2012-09-16 4:47 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-16 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-17 0:39 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-18 23:22 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-15 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-16 4:47 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-16 23:45 ` bug#10624: Dired-marking all files in the region Juri Linkov
2012-11-22 9:49 ` Juri Linkov
2012-11-22 15:27 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-23 7:51 ` Juri Linkov
2012-11-23 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-25 9:16 ` Juri Linkov
2012-11-25 15:49 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-25 16:12 ` Juri Linkov
2012-11-25 17:02 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-22 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-23 7:59 ` Juri Linkov
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