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From: Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 12895@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12895: 24.3.50; Replacement for flet
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:49:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcd538o2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzk2htycj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:34:36 -0500")

11/16/2012 15:34, Stefan Monnier
>>> Overriding a function is bad.  It can mess things up and throw you
>>> majorly off-course when debugging the problem.
>> So are advices.
>
> But advices are much more visible (e.g. they appear in C-h f).
>
>> I have lots of flet in my .emacs, usually to suppress
>> messages from functions which are defined elsewhere. For instance,
>
> So you need just one advice that adds an `inhibit-message' variable and
> then you can let-bind this variable wherever you used flet message.

Ah, I didn't see that's what you were doing in js.el. Fair enough, I'll
do that, thanks!

I did like flet, though, and in general, I think it's annoying to users
to remove/deprecate functionality that are neat ways to get inside lisp
code from outside (dynamic-scoping overrides, advices, etc.)  just
because they are bad practice and make debugging harder. Some of us are
quite happy not modifying emacs source code but hacking into it from the
comfort of our .emacs. But I do understand your reasons for obsoleting
it.





  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-16 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-15 13:35 bug#12895: 24.3.50; Replacement for flet Antoine Levitt
2012-11-15 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-15 15:01   ` Antoine Levitt
2012-11-15 18:35     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-15 22:42       ` Antoine Levitt
2012-11-15 23:05         ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-15 23:24           ` Antoine Levitt
2012-11-15 23:44             ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-15 23:47               ` Antoine Levitt
2012-11-15 23:51                 ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-16 14:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-16 14:49           ` Antoine Levitt [this message]
2012-11-16 15:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-31 17:42             ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-02-09 20:36               ` Antoine Levitt
2012-11-16  7:04   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2012-11-16 14:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-16  1:21 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-31 14:19 ` bug#12895: Status: " Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-31 16:51   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-31 17:10     ` Marcin Borkowski

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