From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15045: Point jumps inappropriately around time of Semantic lexing Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:54:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87vc3drhuv.fsf@engster.org> References: <87pptptk9n.fsf@engster.org> <87eha4t7xz.fsf@engster.org> <8738qksz6l.fsf@engster.org> <837gfvua2r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y58bs9x4.fsf@engster.org> <83zjsrs3k2.fsf@gnu.org> <87pptmsv4z.fsf@engster.org> <83siyira0w.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376128517 29510 80.91.229.3 (10 Aug 2013 09:55:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gundaetiapo@gmail.com, 15045@debbugs.gnu.org, eric@siege-engine.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 10 11:55:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V85tF-0005v9-1D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:55:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58676 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V85tE-00035t-CQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:55:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V85t6-00033b-S9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:55:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V85t0-00010F-T9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56775) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V85t0-0000zg-Qh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V85sz-0001q8-SM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David Engster Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15045 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15045-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15045.13761284797035 (code B ref 15045); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15045) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2013 09:54:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V85sc-0001pP-Vv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:54:39 -0400 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([83.169.19.17]:36892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V85sZ-0001pG-UR for 15045@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:54:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=mkdHEeIQKT5sSWX0jn4Auud/FQiCrlgsg288toNWtfw=; b=G+c3ayym7dcsfsyaELPjVff9ffDGZrqp1GdsEjBi47uOc5tUN8P2W4n8fSfesdIAzGI3VzWEl4Xf4eyQB416BqV7xstzuag+i1P0KQhxTePhYiYAVvnq0/60dcxZYMeN; Original-Received: from dslc-082-083-054-159.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.54.159] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V85sX-0004aZ-Pe; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:54:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83siyira0w.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:31:27 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:77242 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Engster >> Yes. But it shows that this bug is easy to make, and it's hard to track >> down. > > It is also very rare. I don't think the bug is rare. I do think that this bug being triggered is rare, since we don't have many non-idle timers in Emacs that trigger redisplay (are there others in Emacs core besides the display-time event handler?). It might be fun to work for a while with a dummy timer which triggers redisplay once a second or so. I also think this bug is seldomly reported because it's impossible to give a recipe if you don't know that it is a timer that triggers it (which is why I never bothered to report the bug in speck-mode). -David