From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13276: 24.2.50; apropos-variable Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:31:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87vbu1aexq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: > <87ehi1wfhj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> > <87pq1kc4eo.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <38E9A068A13749DC894603C55CC6D667@us.oracle.com> <87a9sjkamm.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87boczirs3.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> > <87fw2bh881.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398160707 19756 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2014 09:58:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13276@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 11:58:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSy-0005aP-Tf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:58:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54145 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSy-0004Da-KW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34351) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSq-0004DT-7w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSk-0003RM-KZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:58:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46562) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSk-0003RI-IH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSj-0003FA-US for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13276 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13276-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13276.139816067112445 (code B ref 13276); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13276) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2014 09:57:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54719 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXSZ-0003Ef-04 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181]:36522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcXST-0003EN-K0 for 13276@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm4so2952032wib.8 for <13276@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=6cXqXsxJ7YPbBUIYEVFuk9HEfPW39EK+zuD8DK4NBp4=; b=YsyKwZcpL9piBwSLHni4ShwrinjVkufYUCwGWv5euozWM025OL6qWL0XAI56sTFxHe S6jWkz9GSDxKnKtkM+PF+TwnqQfwAWd2RMJenqHO9zP5HH+DPSProsRhlU+M2d+HsqM3 MkWFTjkEDCK/xnXM1v9ocO1H2m6LDc0WpABsKeU54iykNdD+F4DAj9a6QvHaiE77941A C1RDPVQs5oGsNbnUgfiWp88l6p22D0DaSITlsS+nT36J+ZZGweiD2wR72+UwLWJ1RaA9 QdZk6Fhtjoys5aF/JYhCO2C3qtjvbBgZyQ51Pgi2LnmcSd/5/HANy0hPwc+wCu5fthXJ t8bw== X-Received: by 10.180.105.132 with SMTP id gm4mr17832299wib.39.1398160664538; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (AMontsouris-651-1-16-102.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr. [90.46.107.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hg18sm21563026wib.19.2014.04.22.02.57.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A21F01C207FA; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:31:13 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88207 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Everyone in this bug thread, including RMS, had agreed that the name > should be `apropos-option', but Stefan acted otherwise. This is a > bad decision. It just makes things harder for users, by confusing > them. Stefan suggested `apropos-user-option' and I did the change following his suggestion, because I agree `apropos-user-option' is good too. Let me restate the point I tried to make in this thread: My point was that, for small changes (like this one or the ones you often request about docstrings), patches are more likely to be more closely and quickly considered than discussions, because they speak for themselves. If they do not, and if it is a small change, then probably we're bikeshed'ing. Thanks, -- Bastien