From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87v9rjv45e.fsf@web.de> References: <8ea0a3fa-5169-4493-bd54-3ebe47836a35@default> <87r3i9nped.fsf@gnus.org> <87wps1m7co.fsf@web.de> <87y4chjdop.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8ys3131.fsf@gnus.org> <875zjx6hs6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sgmy3x22.fsf@gnus.org> <871rugbqmy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87d0dxyh7z.fsf@gnus.org> <53c55db5-d623-4946-af2e-d141e7bc7acd@default> <87sgmrpir5.fsf@web.de> <87mucya2a7.fsf@web.de> <87mucy4cb2.fsf@web.de> <621b98dc-0fe9-4eef-9e11-7580fb446e97@default> <87k1822ocn.fsf@web.de> <87lfsfmtk0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="122319"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 17272@debbugs.gnu.org, 19064@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 16 23:38:40 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iW6iF-000Vi7-KN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1573943858; bh=9okI2I6++jTdMorPh72NxKL3IoE1OLQxYzdgMyOST7c=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qui5O3jUyG+BJjVhTe+I7g/ClkkhPuqr6skvp6G7zPD9o9pUH7d7ehKSrihbk8wIU Q5ZZhSCZaPO3VVD0SlAS3i8+hrWQodNLgrZ/rrX5Tobi+udqfwZfmyKbv0eRCaS0j6 mBu9/U72xeDCaXsWuonfz9kJjAq0y3Qys+yhVx2c= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.222.9]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MfYn9-1iD2PS3Wzj-00P5wJ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:37:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lfsfmtk0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sat, 16 Nov 2019 22:53:51 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:i1huyGYgTICtPpHk1F3QZB5iwGd39o1s+7iLMUuK3mErCJmrvcS uHllZmgmCt73azmRnd0kwHcRaeZuNHa+nK/31XqDeG1TtQr5YNpH7oXBYbBVlwOtIRC4UHR GGMjUXJBKeEO8z9Q/Ov0e7ziTF8rAm2d64gU7656baq9XacwgTvrByO5VgeShCasxfo6Ms8 E/kmahIgh2mvUmm1fRXrg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:76nwgFjTDU8=:ssWILUHgFyiLDoEmofZGGn XLz+d1nZ43lcGY2PxCBWHPjilOSaqWkX0l+oS8VfsTF/nDza4uk9xqphfS/oaDEFRv41LFMDU dS0nV3xJI+ErpkJ3tg4xCJ6eBHU9BQhPIQmH1ME7jBrMMbUEkKu+osAfatO8lR31ICo1cylIu U7yzmbEsc8RmvE3wsvqt478HFSOu9suFxvEZhZSZJxx1oO3J45hghfV4RqqntZkb09ZOQE0sR nNIaBRQh4hUz9f3sIM3EwGuj9aISyadrw7Rf61VfyYkDyh9cFkXhtuzBOGOjR/fnzWVriKEJa D9dy5DbY3EPOTOXmTzODbU2skbqoxtk/e8k9DEOg6SjrAuoDoorqLK+bFTZ/UillCM/ah+uuw Q6C9MLz734c+pCxhURywsrIDPcfohMeNTlkpiRNbJ+1Uj4eLGx7xU03pjOU+CVq1uYCn+Hoot sDgeqcfxcJsGkrTUdhLNUn66q3y0RrA4FW3nUNwNFP+4vasfT75+xa4i1GxUuXOTlCYz6epn2 83gJ7N/SVT3JrnJblPt5KUWAoywPH3Tcu58/OLZEEdSgmvK2zifBwKimFnRN665kcNJoypMD/ m0fwnaT6y4pYDnQBUF6o2EWWoDbWNKSsqSDbxBA1h2D7bXhE7eIPAdkDo+IcwrP+uBZ1TMwpm XDyqnF6ffN5Y/hSlI40db5SBHAWdVw2wUtfoqC6BKkEvVlc4h0Uh2RzDxE2mPhXbiEGg0jV6c 0XnU0WMiGQsdYMot9hGZxSR6aHDFct2/zybLPhigEucv5N5bT82gv7VX/uGlPeM+F8YI/egB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171745 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > >> That's easy to do. But the statement wasn't just > >> about the minibuffer when echo area was meant, or > >> vice versa. The claim was that _user input_ (not > >> a prompt) became permanently hidden. > > > > I don't know if that was also a mistake or really meant like that. > > This is not a mistake. Permanently hidden user input > is a serious problem and security threat. > > Today I started compilation, then in a Dired buffer > requested files deletion that displayed the prompt: > > Delete D [54 files] (y or n) > > But before I had a chance to answer the prompt, compilation finished > and obscured the prompt with this message permanently: > > Compilation finished > > So I forgot about what was in the prompt :-( > > Since Drew doesn't want to improve safety to cover all such cases, > we need to address these issues one by one [...] That's nearly impossible to do, and once you are done, new cases will likely be introduced in the future. Drew, how would you address this class of problems? Michael.