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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>,
	12507@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:41:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9g52dvz.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfdc3c0b-1f71-4dbb-918a-5fc78c5b52d7@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:29:58 -0700 (PDT)")

I've just been deep-diving into this again.  I'd like feedback on this general plan for a solution:

1) In files.el: define a new function `back-up-file' [a] that takes a
   file name as argument and does most of what `backup-buffer' currently
   does -- basically, everything from the second `when' on down to the
   end of the function.

2) Change `backup-buffer' to use the new function `back-up-file'.

   In other words, we abstract out most of the Emacs file backup
   functionality to this new function `back-up-file' so we can call it
   in (3) below, passing a file name argument.

3) In bookmark.el, in `bookmark-write-file', call `back-up-file' right
   before the `write-region' call.  (Note that the ambient value of
   `version-control' will already be correct at this point.)

Before I make the patch, I wanted to propose the general idea here and see if it seems okay to others.

This way we would still use `write-region' and avoid visiting the file.  Even though we don't know exactly why Richard made the original motivating change (commit cfde584f6d, see [b] below), there was some problem with `write-file' -- so we shouldn't just go back to that, because a regression would be likely.

Thoughts on this plan?

Best regards,
-Karl

[a] Yes, I know I've inserted a hyphen into "back-up" in that function
    name.  That's because in English "back up" is a compound verb,
    whereas "backup" as one word is a noun.  The existing function name
    "backup-buffer" is thus grammatically suspect, but I'm not proposing
    to fix that here; I'm just trying to avoid repeating the confusion.
    If folks would prefer "backup-file" for consistency, I could do
    that, or maybe just find another name.  The details of the function
    names are not the point here -- I'm just looking for feedback on the
    general plan.

[b] Commit cfde584f6d:

    ===============================================
    commit cfde584f6d25db8c0ba229ebb85fba60e99eb1af
    Author:     Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
    AuthorDate: Sun May 29 08:36:26 2005 +0000
    Commit:     Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
    CommitDate: Sun May 29 08:36:26 2005 +0000
    
        (save-place-alist-to-file): Write the file using write-region.
    
    M	lisp/saveplace.el
    ===============================================
    --- lisp/saveplace.el
    +++ lisp/saveplace.el
    @@ -222,7 +222,8 @@ save-place-alist-to-file
                   (t
                    t))))
     	(condition-case nil
    -	    (write-file file)
    +	    ;; Don't use write-file; we don't want this buffer to visit it.
    +	    (write-region (point-min) (point-max) file)
     	  (file-error (message "Can't write %s" file)))
             (kill-buffer (current-buffer))
             (message "Saving places to %s...done" file)))))
    ===============================================





  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-23  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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