From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43830: keyboard layout handling incompatible with rest of the OS Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 20:27:41 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87v9ep54sy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87h7r78a5y.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87imbn2iwm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2kisawy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83362qa073.fsf@gnu.org> <87blhdrhww.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83362p85l3.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2jqcrvn.fsf@gnu.org> <87blghbjpn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2jlf6wx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 43830@debbugs.gnu.org, pogonyshev@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 01 19:43:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIKG-0004A1-3R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 19:43:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47538 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIKF-0008U2-5o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:43:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIHo-0006o5-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:41:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55168) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIHl-0004W0-JR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:41:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIHl-0000Oi-Hm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:41:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43830 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43830-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43830.16042560471459 (code B ref 43830); Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43830) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2020 18:40:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIHX-0000NT-F3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:40:47 -0500 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:39477) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZIHV-0000My-Mv for 43830@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:40:45 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.102.160 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-102-160.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.160]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F18820006; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 18:40:37 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83y2jlf6wx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 01 Nov 2020 17:11:58 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192430 Archived-At: >> What is worse is that in a writable buffer, typing 'Ê' should insert >> this character untranslated, but in the same buffer when it's in >> read-only view mode, typing the same 'Ê' should translate it to 'q' >> and quit the buffer with the View-quit command. When using reverse-im >> with local-function-key-map, the Help buffer says: >> >> q (translated from Ê) runs the command View-quit. >> >> So the question is whether it's possible to do the same using >> XkbTranslateKeyCode? The local-function-key-map is smart enough >> to not translate self-inserting keys. Can code for XkbTranslateKeyCode >> use the same condition to detect self-inserting keys? > > Why do you want XkbTranslateKeyCode to do this? why not the code in > keyboard.c that reads the event queue and invokes commands? If we > make both the key and the character available to keyboard.c, it should > be able to figure out what is TRT in each situation, I think. Actually by the phrase "code for XkbTranslateKeyCode" I meant the code in keyboard.c that could use XkbTranslateKeyCode to do the key translation between physical keys and characters.