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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 24237@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24237: 24.5; (elisp)`Extended Menu Items', :filter warning
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:24:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9d67ox6.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c4f5089-43fa-4ca1-a656-1ec1684df960@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:06:31 -0700 (PDT)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> The doc for :filter says this about the FILTER-FN:
>
>    Emacs can call this function at any time that it does redisplay or
>    operates on menu data structures, so you should write it so it can
>    safely be called at any time.
>
> Is this true in general, or only when the extended menu item is put on a
> menu?
>
> A common idiom is to make use of a `menu-item' construct with a :filter
> to create a conditional _keyboard_ key binding.  In such a case, the
> `menu-item' construct is not a real menu item - it is not placed on any
> menu.
>
> I'm guessing that in such a case this doc paragraph does not apply.  If
> this guess is correct then please correct the paragraph, so that it says
> something like "If an extended menu item that uses :filter is placed on
> a menu then Emacs can call FILTER-FN when...".

I think making the documentation more specific here serves no purpose.
The statement as is should be true: You should always write these filter
functions as if they are called at any time.

> Also, is it really the case that FILTER-FN can be called anytime Emacs
> does redisplay?  Shouldn't the doc say only that it can be called
> anytime Emacs "operates on menu data structures"?  Does it get called by
> redisplay other than when redisplay operates on menu data structures?
> In the case mentioned above (binding to a keyboard key), would FILTER-FN
> ever be called during redisplay?  I'm guessing that it would not.

I don't see why we should specify that at all.

Closing.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-12 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-15 18:06 bug#24237: 24.5; (elisp)`Extended Menu Items', :filter warning Drew Adams
2020-12-12 20:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2020-12-12 20:45   ` Drew Adams
2020-12-13 15:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<6c4f5089-43fa-4ca1-a656-1ec1684df960@default>
     [not found] ` <<87v9d67ox6.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<70cc884d-4f32-4a2e-b3f5-181709f2ca29@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83blexeod5.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-13 17:24       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-13 17:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<6c4f5089-43fa-4ca1-a656-1ec1684df960@default>
     [not found] ` <<<87v9d67ox6.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<70cc884d-4f32-4a2e-b3f5-181709f2ca29@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<83blexeod5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<e70746fb-1e56-4115-9fb8-1896c4e8b8d3@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83v9d5d1yd.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-13 19:52           ` Drew Adams
2020-12-19 10:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<6c4f5089-43fa-4ca1-a656-1ec1684df960@default>
     [not found] ` <<<<87v9d67ox6.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<<70cc884d-4f32-4a2e-b3f5-181709f2ca29@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<83blexeod5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<e70746fb-1e56-4115-9fb8-1896c4e8b8d3@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<83v9d5d1yd.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<846fcdf8-9b51-4246-8200-b067e7006e24@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83y2hut6m7.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-19 18:54               ` Drew Adams
2020-12-19 19:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<<6c4f5089-43fa-4ca1-a656-1ec1684df960@default>
     [not found] ` <<<<<87v9d67ox6.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<<<70cc884d-4f32-4a2e-b3f5-181709f2ca29@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<<83blexeod5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<<e70746fb-1e56-4115-9fb8-1896c4e8b8d3@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<<83v9d5d1yd.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<<846fcdf8-9b51-4246-8200-b067e7006e24@default>
     [not found]             ` <<<83y2hut6m7.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <<d15a8746-eb78-44b5-a4d6-af2285969b76@default>
     [not found]                 ` <<838s9ttxkk.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-19 19:35                   ` Drew Adams
2020-12-20  0:05                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-20  1:23                       ` Drew Adams

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