From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23417: 25.1.50; Elisp manual: document gotcha about new objects and quoting Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:48:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87v9b456qx.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20863a98-6b56-409a-9d77-842b39dfd39c@default> <877e82b3p1.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27483"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 23417@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 07 14:49:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kR2-00070B-VL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:49:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60132 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kR2-0007UR-21 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:49:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kQv-0007UF-VQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:49:01 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kQv-0000Fa-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:49:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kQv-0002pi-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:49:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23417 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 23417-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23417.161270569910826 (code B ref 23417); Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23417) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2021 13:48:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47092 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kQF-0002oY-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35510) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kQC-0002oH-Qa for 23417@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:48:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=xRqd/AX08kkRTd0WWfBG09EOkriF8DcGJucHAU4eUms=; b=W+ypmu39QAzpWdQlf+YUMRcfVR TDH4vJ3HBSfWR9csL6ahCFJKjsunPQsz+eSmIux3BWtvjwMOImZxPz98FjKld833NsMfCkiYwAIrD /fEorfhMMuaL9V0nrvPXKvzOoltal794j5I10ColmohO4j+Oyq/tYwfNeeM3r/v2kNQI=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l8kQ3-0000r7-GJ; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:48:10 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Ian Griffith's _Oscarsongs_: "Cape Horn" In-Reply-To: <877e82b3p1.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 28 Jul 2019 17:04:42 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199485 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I thought we already specified (somewhere in the manual) that a quoted > list often doesn't give us a new list, but after looking around for > seven seconds, I can't find it. What section would this info go in? This is in Self-Evaluating Forms (now). >> 4. Please correct misleading text, such as this from `Creating Hash', >> so as not to give the impression that you get a new object for each >> occurrence of a quoted constant. >> >> You can also create a new hash table using the printed >> representation for hash tables. >> >> Here is one example of confusion wrt the gotcha for #s: >> http://stackoverflow.com/q/36964728/729907 > > Yes, that seems pretty misleading -- the natural interpretation of that > (and the example) is that you can use it exactly as is done in that code > snippet. Which you can't. Does anybody want to rephrase the "Creating > Hash" node in hash.texi? I've now clarified this in Emacs 28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no