From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:21:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87v987z53l.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87blabpy54.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf9eo3mq.fsf@gnus.org> <0d7924a2-d09f-e2d0-f0e7-6b5ee3a7a7f2@yandex.ru> <192e82f20f5deb690394@heytings.org> <87zgxmjkr9.fsf@gnus.org> <874kfs3585.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12871"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Alan Third , 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Welsh Duggan , Stefan Kangas , jasonspiro4@gmail.com, Stefan Monnier , Dmitry Gutov To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 28 01:22:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbX1v-0003ER-Cj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sure, that makes sense, I think. (Since `ring-bell-function' has precedence over `visible-bell'.) So we'd change the default of the former to be a new visible bell function (for instance something that works the same as the visible bell on GNU/Linux systems, but across all systems (or one of the new proposed visible bell functions)), and deprecate `visible-bell'. I think that should be a pretty un-annoying way forward. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no