From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49631: 28.0.50; dired-hide-details-mode Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 24.4 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 15:57:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87v956o18e.fsf@gnus.org> References: <838s227bv2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5977"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , 49631@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 19 15:58:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m5TnM-0001Kn-7C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 15:58:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42418 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5TnL-0001nD-9Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53156) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5TmU-0000dr-7d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48116) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5TmT-0005Nu-VN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:58:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5TmT-0006TX-TF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:58:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49631 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49631-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49631.162670305124855 (code B ref 49631); Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49631) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2021 13:57:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59662 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Tlz-0006Sp-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Tly-0006Sc-3c for 49631@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:57:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZZFpsWEjzpkbDl2vtUCgCFRQPd8qVMU5eJFVLd1Ghfo=; b=mzVMGH+biwvWi0I6HaZEMKvaYo hnmsgNhM6BTdexCoy+SPcPc4q3s/tNWCAmk1Doi3xvY+AmLnlpGq+jlS+th1lCyD1r2MCQR8h9tE7 majvY3jP01WWD8XydfaLCTQ2R5SPltUi4K8wr8CjqlgOit3prix/CPSO8sPmc+w0GOEo=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Tlp-0007SP-Fe; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 15:57:24 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Arthur Russell's _Iowa Dreams_: "Just Regular People" In-Reply-To: <838s227bv2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:59:45 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:210247 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> C-h f dired-hide-details-mode says >> >> Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 24.4. >> >> Why doesn't it _know_ precisely which versiob that function was >> introduced in? It was only a few versions ago, so this was not >> something lost in prehistory. What causes the uncertainty? > > The feature works by searching the etc/NEWS* files, and finding a > symbol there doesn't necessarily mean the Emacs release in which it's > mentioned is the actual release where the symbol was introduced. For > example, we sometimes forget to announce features and only do that > later. Thus the uncertainty and the cautious language. And Richard may not know that we've discussed, innumerable times, whether we should maintain an actual registry to avoid the guessing, and we've concluded that this would be too much work. Which is still the conclusion. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no