From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Derek Upham Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55103: 29.0.50; Server mode + reuseable-frames + switch-to-buffer-other-window + *scratch* => hang Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:49:52 -0700 Message-ID: <87v8uwpkpr.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> References: <87v8uyyn5a.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <871qxl7g02.fsf@gnus.org> <5c0b0c1e-3c29-8753-d799-32b594b2c259@gmx.at> <874k2h5whr.fsf@gnus.org> <5f45b6bc-8664-2d61-ee0e-b7fc6fa221b0@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9853"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.8; emacs 29.0.50 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 55103@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 26 06:25:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1njClG-0002N0-0N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:25:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38402 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njClE-0006DC-Es for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:25:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njCl5-0006D2-26 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njCl4-0003p4-0b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njCl3-0002mz-TQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Derek Upham Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 04:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55103 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 55103-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55103.165094709910709 (code B ref 55103); Tue, 26 Apr 2022 04:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2022 04:24:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36584 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njCl0-0002md-T9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:24:59 -0400 Original-Received: from wilbur.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.68]:54804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njCDF-0001t7-DH for 55103@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 23:50:06 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth1.co-bxl (smtpauth1.co-bxl [10.2.0.15]) by wilbur.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6865C9CA; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 05:49:58 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1650944998; s=20210208-e7xh; d=mailfence.com; i=derek_upham@mailfence.com; h=References:From:Cc:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; l=1057; bh=6eRNM62HXtYTF02+7VSEpfbriLOV8K1x/RtcSfmmn/c=; b=Xy1YVqkqb8RGepOzm5WK1dJpnZp+bKnb/HHl5KN2+e7te2Nk7rMn9o5IrWmuToND 1rESXFPPIlQtYIXCPdsCl3s2muHaoVUx6Ff+hJE+mMxx0zQxJnj6F+LDVDNFKcyrASi BfuHoVBcpXPJ5CRV/vZGfH+WaP0XhwEFOYl8WR3X6e/zHikwqdwrNWQQjL9mSogWOeZ SuvzTuedvirHuqAE3YMgbIzOyvqJm8fOzcHYe1mh5c1yh0Zp4kiiQEb3xoCTl6s2PFT 1u1WfslfFCNkvdAb97Qaz45zEyMOmO0YZ9UTidgtZ/JPzVDZXerD/18OnQNgpWsuXVB RhE+cpvykQ== Original-Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPSA ; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 05:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [::1] (helo=priss.frightenedpiglet.com) by priss.frightenedpiglet.com with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1njCD2-00BqVe-A2; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:49:52 -0700 In-reply-to: <5f45b6bc-8664-2d61-ee0e-b7fc6fa221b0@gmx.at> X-ContactOffice-Account: com:175140567 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:24:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230680 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >> Then t doesn't seem like a very useful value? > > Maybe Derek will tell us whether '0' is not sufficient for him. All of this came from me experimenting with the configuration=20 suggested in the Perspective package: https://github.com/nex3/perspective-el#some-musings-on-emacs-window-layou= ts I guess the author doesn=E2=80=99t use the server. After looking at the =E2=80=9CAction Alists for Buffer Display=E2=80=9D doc= s, I=20 tried =E2=80=98visible=E2=80=99 and that fixes the problem. In particular,= I=20 brought up *scratch* in a separate TTY client, and Emacs filtered=20 that display from consideration, like we would want. Is =E2=80=98t=E2=80=99 is ever useful, I wonder? What other categories are= there=20 besides visible frames and iconified frames (both covered by =E2=80=980=E2= =80=99),=20 and this edge case? Anyway to summarize: this is not a dire problem, it was just weird=20 and worth investigating. The proposed fix works for me. Thanks, Derek