From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56380: 29.0.50; completing-read: INITIAL-INPUT arg Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2022 13:33:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87v8sb4ww7.fsf@gnus.org> References: <878rp9840g.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13958"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Arash Esbati , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , 56380@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 13:36:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8gqg-0003UK-Au for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 13:36:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8gqf-0004k6-D5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8goc-0002o1-QI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8goc-0007NF-Gx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o8goc-0003py-Dv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2022 11:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 56380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56380.165702081214711 (code B ref 56380); Tue, 05 Jul 2022 11:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2022 11:33:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49456 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o8go7-0003pC-OE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o8go5-0003oy-Fp for 56380@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:33:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=MZcPvccKnfA1XVC2v2K0wYVEy1x6iP6fVLYWKlS99nA=; b=KXZAzXepPhfhH4Vhy4AaZGFUhr JN3avVI8qurlB3yAdTkmhznKqz7gwkZgOzSKR0wnfPdF84uH1bIo9l4J7lI2bV0ixqtWG2fzPFGBD bV3aMTZzRg/ucoAET+nm4InkiClOaijP+sexUIwCsQNTVClN4B6MWfFYE/WeV6nnForc=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8gnq-00015x-3R; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 13:33:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878rp9840g.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 04 Jul 2022 14:18:55 +0200") X-Now-Playing: Eurythmics's _In The Garden_: "Belinda" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236099 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > The docstring of `completing-read' says the argument INITIAL-INPUT is > deprecated - yet there are over 30 nontrivial uses in Emacs' own Elisp > sources. So, although we currently don't want that this argument is > used just to insert a default input, it's sometimes not possible to > avoid using it. [...] > + for POSITION.) Don't use this argument to insert a default value -- > + use DEF for that. You can use INITIAL-INPUT, for example, to insert > + a prefix common to all completion candidates. See > + `minibuffer-with-setup-hook' for a general method to prepare the > + minibuffer. It's an improvement on the original text, but this makes it sound like inserting a common prefix is something callers are expected to do. (But instead it's a super rare special case that virtually nobody would actually do in practice.) So I'd rather just remove that sentence about what you can use INITIAL-INPUT for. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no