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Thu, 15 Jun 2023 17:35:49 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <12eb3b7e-f944-6a96-cfb9-285891d659ca@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 15 Jun 2023 15:34:09 +0300") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:263427 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 15/06/2023 09:04, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> I have no problem with the command. I have problem with_ELPA page_ >> mentioning this command for built-in packages. > > Cool. > >> If you look into my other email, I suggested indicating on the ELPA >> page when a package is built-in and also add instructions how to upgrade >> it. That makes more sense_for ELPA page_. > > Not a bad idea, though it will also require adding some metadata on > when the package was added to Emacs. > > Perhaps a simpler alternative is to stop referencing 'package-install' > and instead point uses to 'M-x list-packages'. I think this would be better as well. A lot of users don't even know what version they use, so we should have to describe how to find that out as well. And if that isn't enough, we would also have to explain what core, built-in and ELPA packages are, and how they interact. Not worth it, IMO.