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From: Michael Albinus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>
Cc: damien@cassou.me, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	67937@debbugs.gnu.org, jp@neverwas.me
Subject: bug#67937: 30.0.50; auth-source-pass relies on epa-file being enabled
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:00:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v88nk5md.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h6k77qco.fsf@aarsen.me> ("Arsen Arsenović"'s message of "Sun, 24 Dec 2023 13:00:44 +0100")

Arsen Arsenović <arsen@aarsen.me> writes:

Hi Arsen,

>>> I disagree.  I think that involving the f-n-h-a mechanism for handling
>>> PGP files ultimately introduces implicitly far more complexity, even if
>>> the code is slightly briefer, precisely because of this dependency.
>>
>> I disagree with your disagreement, and agree with Michael here.  I see
>> no maintainer's complexity in using file-name handlers that could be
>> avoided by not using them: file-name handlers are, and will always be,
>> an integral part of Emacs internals, so thinking about them as
>> "complexity" makes no more sense than, say, thinking about GC as
>> complexity.
>
> In that case, auth-source-pass should ensure it's there.  This is where
> the complexity I refer to creeps in.  Now auth-source-pass needs to
> alter and restore file-name-handler-alist as appropriate.  This means
> that it has to get involved with global state, potentially impacting
> other functions it calls.

No, auth-source-pass should not enable it on its own I believe. It
should fire an error, which hopefully produces a backtrace. This
backtrace would help us to understand, what's up.

> It seems to me more reliable to alter EPA to provide an
> insert-file-contents functions for direct use.  This is less composable
> and elegant than file-name handlers, naturally, but it is also exactly
> what a password-store read requires.

No. There is no reason to implement this.

> Arsen Arsenović

Best regards, Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-24 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-20 16:57 bug#67937: 30.0.50; auth-source-pass relies on epa-file being enabled Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-20 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-20 19:11   ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-20 19:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-20 19:58       ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-21  9:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-21 10:18           ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-21 14:33             ` J.P.
2023-12-21 15:29               ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-21 23:39                 ` J.P.
2023-12-22  7:33                   ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-22 14:27                     ` J.P.
2023-12-22 14:53                       ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-22 19:40                       ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-22 20:49                         ` J.P.
2023-12-23 11:20                           ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-23 15:06                             ` J.P.
2023-12-23 15:26                               ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-23 16:59                                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-23 19:44                                   ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24  0:43                                     ` J.P.
2023-12-24 10:25                                       ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 11:55                                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24  9:47                                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 10:37                                       ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 11:41                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 12:00                                           ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 15:00                                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-12-24 16:11                                               ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 17:26                                                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-29  8:27                                                   ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-29  9:38                                                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 12:00                                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 12:14                                           ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 15:03                                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-24 16:31                                               ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-23 15:50                         ` Arsen Arsenović via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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