From: Thuna <thuna.cing@gmail.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: 72328@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#72328: [PATCH] Nested backquote in pcase
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:43:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v80o14by.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cd4rxqo.fsf@web.de>
>> > And this change would break the symmetry between `backquote' the macro
>> > and backquote patterns in `pcase'. This is an important design idea.
>>
>> I am not quite sure why you think that this breaks symmetry with the
>> backquote macro;
>
> We want that something like this works as expected:
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> (let ((a 1) (b 2))
> (pcase `(69 foo (97 ,a ((,b))))
> (`(69 foo (97 ,a ((,b))))
> (list a b)))) ==> (1 2)
> #+end_src
I feel like there is a possible misunderstanding. I am not preventing a
backquote pattern from going deeper into a list. Your example would
remain perfectly consistent under the new behavior. What *wouldn't*,
however, is something like
(let ((a 1) (b 2))
(pcase `(69 foo `(,bar ,,a ((,,b))))
(`(69 foo `(,bar ,,a ((,,b))))
(list a b))))
Which currently errors on two counts: 1. ,,a in the pattern first
expands the initial , as though it escape the backquote pattern (not the
one before (,bar...) but the one before (69...)) and tries to match the
object - which is (\, 1) - against the pattern ,a which is of course
nonsense so the macroexpansion fails. 2. ,bar in the pattern tries to
match the corresponding object - which is (\, bar) - against the pattern
`bar' which binds the object - once again (\, bar) - to `bar'.
Do you disagree that the result of this form should also be (1 2)?
> I think it's obvious what I mean with symmetry between backquote and
> pcase backquote without giving a formal definition.
Unless our definitions of symmetry are different, the example above is a
clear situation where the current behavior does not have symmetry with
the backquote macro.
> It indeed gets ugly when one wants to match a non-constant
> backquote expression using a backquote pcase pattern with partial
> unquotes (the "mixed case").
>
> But making pcase backquote patterns less expressive just to make this
> special case simpler doesn't make sense to me. OTOH I agree that having
> a convenient solution for this kind of problem would be nice.
The drawback of this new behavior would be that you could not match,
say, the unevaluated object ``10 against ``<some-pattern> where
<some-pattern> indicates an integer, as ``,,(pred integer) would match
against a `(,'\` (,'\, ,(pred integer))). We can still match it, but
only with the same ugly syntax as before: `(,'\` ,(pred integer)).
While this is not ideal, I still consider the new behavior an
improvement.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-28 0:40 bug#72328: [PATCH] Nested backquote in pcase Thuna
2024-07-28 14:52 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-28 15:51 ` Thuna
2024-07-28 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-28 16:20 ` Thuna
2024-07-29 16:03 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-29 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-30 7:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-03 0:07 ` Thuna
2024-08-03 5:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-03 13:22 ` Thuna
2024-08-04 17:10 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-04 21:27 ` Thuna
2024-08-05 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 19:32 ` Thuna
2024-08-06 8:21 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-06 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 13:09 ` Thuna
2024-08-07 3:33 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-07 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07 17:34 ` Thuna
2024-08-08 5:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23 3:25 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-23 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-23 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23 19:11 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-23 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 12:24 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-21 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-22 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-22 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-22 15:21 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-23 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24 18:02 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-25 19:04 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-26 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-26 20:41 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-23 20:19 ` Thuna
2024-07-29 17:43 ` Thuna [this message]
2024-07-29 19:05 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-29 20:45 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-29 20:59 ` Thuna
2024-07-30 17:53 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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