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Wed, 25 Sep 2024 06:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([1.7.159.70]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-20af18584f4sm24207105ad.280.2024.09.25.06.05.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 25 Sep 2024 06:05:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86bk0cc4us.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 25 Sep 2024 15:09:15 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:292394 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=AA= =E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 25, 2024] E= li Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Visuwesh >> Cc: Po Lu , 73456@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 11:33:09 +0530 >>=20 >> [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF= =8D =E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE= =AA=E0=AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 24, 2024] Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>=20 >> > Thanks, but the only way to debug these problems is to run Emacs under >> > GDB at all times, and run it in X-synchronous mode (as described in >> > etc/DEBUG). Only then, when the rare problem happens, you will be >> > able to collect a meaningful backtrace which will point out the >> > offending code. >>=20 >> I figured this would be the case. I saw that message yesterday, and >> today Emacs crashed with the same backtrace. I hope I can find a >> reliable reproducer for the problem since the problem seems to happen >> once a few months so running Emacs under GDB all the time is not >> feasible for me. > > Why is it not feasible for you to run Emacs under GDB at all times? > (Apologies if you already explained that once and I forgot.) GDB > generally gets out of the way as long as Emacs is running smoothly, > and only kicks in when there's some sort of trouble. I didn't explain it before so no worries there. I ran a debug build of Emacs for a ~month before and it was too slow for me to comfortably use it (In particular, Gnus was painfully slow, and Org is a bit too slow). I should fallback to using the stable branch at this point honestly. > If you are using the master branch for production work, I suggest to > run Emacs under GDB all the time, because the master branch is not > stable enough, and detailed information about crashes and aborts is > very important to us. > > TIA When my schedule gets a bit less tense, I will fallback to running the debug build of Emacs all the time but for the foreseeable future, I cannot see it happening.