* bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function
@ 2009-02-16 15:26 Chong Yidong
2009-02-16 16:00 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-18 6:00 ` Kenichi Handa
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-02-16 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: Theodore Ts'o, 2334
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> Using emacs-snapshot-20090207, the text display becomes very ugly when
> set via:
> (set-default-font "DejaVu Sans Mono-10")
> However, if the font is set via the menu bar: Options->Set Default Font
> then the fonts look good (i.e., with proper anti-aliasing).
Hi Handa-san,
I think we should give the xft font backend (where it is available) a
higher priority than the x backend; otherwise, users will keep
experiencing bugs like this.
WDYT?
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* bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function
2009-02-16 15:26 bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function Chong Yidong
@ 2009-02-16 16:00 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-16 18:22 ` Chong Yidong
2009-02-18 6:00 ` Kenichi Handa
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Theodore Tso @ 2009-02-16 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: 2334, Kenichi Handa
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:26:16AM -0500, Chong Yidong wrote:
> "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > Using emacs-snapshot-20090207, the text display becomes very ugly when
> > set via:
> > (set-default-font "DejaVu Sans Mono-10")
> > However, if the font is set via the menu bar: Options->Set Default Font
> > then the fonts look good (i.e., with proper anti-aliasing).
>
> Hi Handa-san,
>
> I think we should give the xft font backend (where it is available) a
> higher priority than the x backend; otherwise, users will keep
> experiencing bugs like this.
>
> WDYT?
Stupid question --- is there a way to force the right thing to happen
from emacs-lisp? My biggest gripe is that I couldn't figure out a way
to make the right thing happem from my .emacs.el file, despite a lot
of time spent trying to find the right interfaces via M-x apropos. So
at the moment, I'm firing up emacs, and then having to use
Options->Set Default Font from the menu bar to change to a small font
size. (And I'm an old-school emacs person who normally would run with
the menu bar and tool bar disabled. :-)
I suspect the correct default though should be to give the xft font
backend a higher priority; especially at the moment, where many people
are using emacs-snapshot *because* of the nicer font display.
Thanks, regards,
- Ted
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* bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function
2009-02-16 16:00 ` Theodore Tso
@ 2009-02-16 18:22 ` Chong Yidong
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-02-16 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Theodore Tso; +Cc: 2334, Kenichi Handa
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
> Stupid question --- is there a way to force the right thing to happen
> from emacs-lisp? My biggest gripe is that I couldn't figure out a way
> to make the right thing happem from my .emacs.el file
Something like this will do the trick:
(set-frame-parameter nil 'font-backend '(xft x))
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* bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function
2009-02-16 15:26 bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function Chong Yidong
2009-02-16 16:00 ` Theodore Tso
@ 2009-02-18 6:00 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-02-18 13:48 ` Chong Yidong
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2009-02-18 6:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: tytso, 2334
In article <8763jaqu7b.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
> "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > Using emacs-snapshot-20090207, the text display becomes very ugly when
> > set via:
> > (set-default-font "DejaVu Sans Mono-10")
> > However, if the font is set via the menu bar: Options->Set Default Font
> > then the fonts look good (i.e., with proper anti-aliasing).
> Hi Handa-san,
> I think we should give the xft font backend (where it is available) a
> higher priority than the x backend; otherwise, users will keep
> experiencing bugs like this.
I at first want to figure out why the above two methods for
seting a font are different. At least, I can't reproduce
the difference. Can you? When I have "dejavu sans mono"
fonts both for fontconfig and X as below, both methods set
the default font to X font.
% fc-list 'dejavu sans mono'
DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Oblique
DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Book
DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Bold
% xlsfonts '*-dejavu sans mono-*'
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-bold-o-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-bold-o-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-medium-o-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-medium-o-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-iso10646-1
-dejavu-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso10646-1
[...]
---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org
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* bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function
2009-02-18 6:00 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2009-02-18 13:48 ` Chong Yidong
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-02-18 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: tytso, 2334
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:
> I at first want to figure out why the above two methods for
> seting a font are different. At least, I can't reproduce
> the difference. Can you? When I have "dejavu sans mono"
> fonts both for fontconfig and X as below, both methods set
> the default font to X font.
I do see this bug.
I have 'Emacs.Font: Monospace 9' in my .Xresources file. With
`emacs -Q', C-u C-x = reports the font as
xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans
Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x1E)
If I then do
M-: (modify-frame-parameters (selected-frame)
(list (cons 'font "DejaVu Sans Mono 9")))
the font becomes non-antialised, and C-u C-x = reports
x:-dejavu-dejavu sans
mono-medium-r-normal--12-87-100-100-m-70-iso8859-1 (#x3B)
My results for fc-list and xlsfonts are the same as yours.
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* bug#2334: 23.0.90; emacs-snapshot has ugly fonts when using set-default-font elisp function
@ 2009-02-15 5:32 Theodore Ts'o
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Theodore Ts'o @ 2009-02-15 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
Using emacs-snapshot-20090207, the text display becomes very ugly when
set via:
(set-default-font "DejaVu Sans Mono-10")
However, if the font is set via the menu bar: Options->Set Default Font
then the fonts look good (i.e., with proper anti-aliasing).
In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.4)
of 2009-02-10 on iridium, modified by Debian
(emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090207-1~intrepid1)
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10502000
configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.90/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.0.90/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=''
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locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
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tooltip-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
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menu-bar-mode: t
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