From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9084: 24.0.50; displaying man pages splits the window and formats the text for the full width of the whole frame rather than for the width of the window the text is displayed in, which is only 1/2 the width of the frame Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 02:18:36 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87tyalilpf.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <878vs0d10o.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <8762n4e5gy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E1FEC9C.2090102@gmx.at> <87aacerzv3.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310876730 4056 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2011 04:25:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9084@debbugs.gnu.org To: lee Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 17 06:25:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIuy-0006tY-Ug for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 06:25:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50539 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIux-0007b3-Ac for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49964) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIuf-0007Zc-58 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIuc-0005Bs-U2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49678) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIuc-0005Bi-RP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIuc-0005Sk-OF; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9084 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9084-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9084.131087667920961 (code B ref 9084); Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2011 04:24:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIuE-0005S2-Hn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:24:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiIu9-0005Rd-0S for 9084@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:24:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09456E8050; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACADC451C200; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:24:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87aacerzv3.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> (lee@yun.yagibdah.de's message of "Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:48:00 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:25:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49318 Archived-At: > When this is applied and the variable `Man-width' is set to some value, > like 75, will the width of the window to display the manpage in be > adjusted to the width of the text? When you set `Man-width' to a positive integer, the manpage's text is formatted to that width. This variable doesn't affect the window's width. > Just splitting the current window in half when it is 230 characters > wide gives you two windows each about 115 characters wide while you > might rather want the window with the manpage to be `Man-width' > characters wide and the other window as wide as the rest of the frame. But what if you have manpage buffers in both of horizontally split side-by-side windows? > Then there's the documentation about `Man-frame-parameters': > > ,---- [ M-x describe-variable Man-frame-parameters ] [...] > `---- > > (I had to look at man.el to find out that I can set `Man-width'.) Do you think `Man-width' should be mentioned in the docstring of `man'? > And when you proceed to customise `Man-frame-parameters', you don't have > any idea what to enter to always get a frame that makes the window > `Man-width' characters wide. Maybe the docstring of `Man-frame-parameters' should provide an example of using the frame parameter `width'? > My understanding would be that `Man-frame-parameters' must be ignored > when running emacs on the console because there are only windows and no > frames available. `Man-frame-parameters' is ignored unless `Man-notify-method' is set to the value `newframe'. However, I don't know how the users who prefer to set `pop-up-frames' to a non-nil value specify the width of the manpage's frame (when `Man-notify-method' is not `newframe')?