From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:54:54 -0600 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87ty3kkbpt.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327438553 18494 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2012 20:55:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 9244@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 24 21:55:49 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnPB-0000xg-07 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:55:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52109 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnPA-0001Eq-CP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:55:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnP4-0001C7-IF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:55:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnP2-00009P-6w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:55:42 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36763) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnP2-00009C-4y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:55:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnPO-000349-1V; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9244 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 9244-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9244.132743855511767 (code B ref 9244); Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9244) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2012 20:55:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnPG-00033e-6u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from cer-mailmxol2.jumptrading.com ([208.78.214.25]:14850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RpnPE-00033K-AT for 9244@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:55:53 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAGTCHk/AqF0N/2dsb2JhbABCrzWBcgEBBAF5EAsNFA8WDwEESQ4Fh3y4HYkmAgEKAiIFg3gGG4MaBIg/klaMdQ Original-Received: from unknown (HELO chiexchange02.w2k.jumptrading.com) ([192.168.93.13]) by cer-mailmxol2.jumptrading.com with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2012 20:56:50 +0000 Original-Received: from internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com (10.2.4.29) by chiexchange02.w2k.jumptrading.com (10.2.4.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:55:24 -0600 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com ([10.2.27.110]) by internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:55:23 -0600 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:31:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2012 20:55:23.0907 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E07D530:01CCDADA] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:55961 Archived-At: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:31:34 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> However, if you have a Gnus with ten different sources, some of them >>> will fail, and being prompted here is just annoying. Gnus will list >>> failed groups specially in the group buffer, and you can `M-g' them to >>> force a reconnect. I think that model makes more sense, overall. >> So I don't think this is a bug, and I'm closing this report. SM> No, I don't think you realize the extent of the problem. SM> Failed groups do not show up specially in my experience (maybe they do SM> on the first connection, but for long-lived Gnus sessions this is SM> irrelevant). SM> Here's another take on the problem: SM> Start "emacs -f gnus" with a setup that uses IMAP. SM> Then when prompted for your IMAP password, type in a wrong password. SM> Result: Gnus just keeps on going, treating the server as "offline". Maybe errored-offline / errored-denied groups could get 2 special faces in the group buffer? That would give a visual indication without necessarily interrupting the user. I think strike-through would be a perfect visual emphasis for this. Ted