From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:48:13 +0100 Message-ID: <87ty3il5ia.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ty3kkbpt.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327600201 31235 80.91.229.12 (26 Jan 2012 17:50:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9244@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 26 18:49:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [140.186.70.17] (helo=lists.gnu.org) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTSO-0003SC-Ll for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:49:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54973 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTSE-00012R-L9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:49:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40266 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTS9-00011r-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTS3-0002al-OW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:49:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.43] (port=40399 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTS3-0002ZD-HO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:49:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTST-0002Qz-Pl; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:50:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9244 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 9244-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9244.13276001429285 (code B ref 9244); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9244) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2012 17:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45786 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTRW-0002Pi-73 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:49:02 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38187) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTRS-0002PD-Os for 9244@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:48:59 -0500 Original-Received: from 93-41-173-241.ip82.fastwebnet.it ([93.41.173.241] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTQl-00027f-SF; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:48:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ty3kkbpt.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:54:54 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1RqTQl-00027f-SF MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1328204896.73466@qA98c4TRPAarUCdi4N7acg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56046 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > Maybe errored-offline / errored-denied groups could get 2 special faces > in the group buffer? That would give a visual indication without > necessarily interrupting the user. > > I think strike-through would be a perfect visual emphasis for this. One of the reasons for having the Agent at all is that you're supposed to be able to read the groups if the server is down. (Or, as in the example, you typed the wrong password.) So I think what Gnus does here is what it's supposed to, but I agree with Ted's suggestion of marking the groups that are from servers that Gnus thinks are down specially. Strike-through is kinda intrusive, though. Something a bit more subtle would be nice... or perhaps just a mark at the beginning of the line, like what we do with non-Agented groups from servers that are down. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome