From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12670: 24.2.50; Uncustomizable defcustom Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:37:49 +0800 Message-ID: <87txqvvv5e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fw2y7tiw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357443533 32306 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2013 03:38:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12670@debbugs.gnu.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 04:39:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh4n-0006OS-Lo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:39:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38746 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh4Y-0004Nk-0v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:38:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60093) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh4U-0004NS-2e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:38:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh4R-0002O5-BP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:38:50 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh4R-0002O1-7b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:38:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh4g-00009b-OL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:39:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 03:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12670.1357443497573 (code B ref 12670); Sun, 06 Jan 2013 03:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2013 03:38:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46833 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh3w-00009C-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:38:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-da0-f52.google.com ([209.85.210.52]:45126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Trh3t-000097-9k for 12670@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:38:14 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f10so8095022dak.25 for <12670@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:37:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=K74tjV+HmK6I+V17mo9E1tpXDX8FkKS0NGSrh6WNQwU=; b=hC1wLPWCFlt6xoe45WQVhBx94kHCTgpmiDdtxpz0yka654ZvKzLTmAqdAtcJ4lIK38 5D7b1ZtT/pShZ++vvzhA/nK3hepn0LoUuv6Q4pznvn+PbpnwG4zYgeVrxwzTyK76AWZg lqvS8Hei+IhLqh1iKUMN0LxCXFkZGpGQGP6LbAS9wLFxLXvwvvGy4cQTctvu1krbODzi 9eAUQ45cAovzCAi+V2gvwRt5oaGOL0iz4y9ZpCTCmF67eRjpBEEhxQjES+eCsk+buHTW BHh/E5VeyUHpQ3RjIjk7LbdKaB1kEhIh0N28VTcpVQWVl4aGkiuAoIsIXNger/LPvnEQ 6R0Q== X-Received: by 10.69.0.101 with SMTP id ax5mr173369902pbd.105.1357443474826; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:37:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from tsparkle (cm107.delta179.maxonline.com.sg. [59.189.179.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oi3sm35077491pbb.1.2013.01.05.19.37.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:37:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:35:51 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.91 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69429 Archived-At: Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > Oops, you're right. I don't recall why I said it's uncustomisable, > but please let me rephrase it: > That defcustom form is unable to suggest a default value, that's > the one suitable to beginners for example, to a user. Could you > try the following two examples? Both behaviors should be the same. > And my patch solves it. Ah, OK. Looks fine to me, please go ahead and commit to trunk.