From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18051: 24.3.92; ls-lisp: Sorting; make ls-lisp-string-lessp a normal function? Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 07:49:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87tx6c7f5v.fsf@web.de> References: <87ha2f5gp8.fsf@web.de> <838unr6ttu.fsf@gnu.org> <871ttj5dfi.fsf@web.de> <87iomvhvdg.fsf@gmx.de> <834myf6mfl.fsf@gnu.org> <87a987ht5r.fsf@gmx.de> <83y4vq6cz3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405835487 18105 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2014 05:51:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 05:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , 18051@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 20 07:51:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k1m-00063U-5z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 07:51:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56464 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k1l-0000Bm-Og for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k1c-0000Ac-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k1W-0000l0-ME for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36420) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k1W-0000kw-Ie for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k1W-0007ic-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 05:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18051.140583540429088 (code B ref 18051); Sun, 20 Jul 2014 05:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2014 05:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59919 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k0Z-0007Z6-33 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:51534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X8k0U-0007YI-OH for 18051@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:50:00 -0400 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.217.127.201]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lr2dj-1WdF4H0gap-00eedT; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 07:49:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83y4vq6cz3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:57:52 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.92 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:/iJb5wifGQNIFRBloGO29TnCTJi0ad8JegWqMSZQNE6tFVefLZX hb+67pX9cvFvHyaNmzdhIhY10FpIuYPHDUltHFuyV74uRKJ3MrVg7thsu+YU4iQsxZXDXDE JYRfte66B1fIM6SUQ+xp5ziC26liZUPWwRF2qtFiM49O8Mw+LIWeXLfT74pAztmvrSeIKTp i6U1s7yFgvYh5c2cbAGgA== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91679 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't think you understood what Michael wanted, but I'll let Michael > speak for himself. I don't use Tramp often currently. Generally, I switched to ls-lisp because I liked that it gives me more control over how dired looks like. Sorting is one only thing (that could probably be done with Tramp). There are other things. What I don't like from ls is that it shows symlinks like this: lrwxrwxrwx ... ... rwxrwxrwx is redundant. When you use M on a link in dired, you actually set the modes of the target. I want to see the target file's modes, so I use this: ,---------------------------------------------------------------------- | (defun my-ls-lisp-treat-symlinks-ad (file-alist &rest _) | "Make it show modes of truenames for symlinks." | (mapc (lambda (file-line) | (let ((filename (expand-file-name (car file-line) | default-directory)) | modes-string) | (when (file-symlink-p filename) | (setq modes-string (nth 8 (file-attributes | (file-truename filename)))) | (if (not modes-string) ;; link could be dead! | (setq modes-string "l?????????") | (aset modes-string 0 ?l)) | (setf (nth 9 file-line) modes-string)))) | file-alist) | file-alist) | | (advice-add 'ls-lisp-handle-switches :after #'my-ls-lisp-treat-symlinks-ad) `---------------------------------------------------------------------- AFAIK this can't be reached with ls. Just one example. Trying to do such things with Tramp would probably indeed slow it down.