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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: 18967@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18967: Tramp disables important SSH security features
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 15:59:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tx2cxcyh.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545BA8B0.8060107@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:58:24 +0000")

On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:58:24 +0000 Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> wrote: 

DC> On 11/06/2014 12:05 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 00:47:40 +0000 Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> wrote: 
>> 
DC> Tramp disables SSH host key checks by setting
DC> GlobalKnownHostsFile=/dev/null, UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null, and
DC> StrictHostKeyChecking=no in its default method configuration. These
DC> settings allow attackers to intercept connections to remote hosts, sniff
DC> passwords, and cause other mischief. I don't think we should ship an
DC> insecure configuration.
>> 
>> I think the alternatives are something like what Ansible does:
>> http://www.ansible.com/blog/2014/01/15/ssh-connection-upgrades-coming-in-ansible-1-5
>> or a SSH client library as a FFI. 

>> SSH, when called externally, has many failure modes without those
>> options.

DC> So let it fail.

You can discuss that with the users and the maintainers and Michael
Albinus.  I was certainly not recommending a course of action.

DC> Since when is it okay to trade diminished security for improved
DC> reliability?

Happiness comes from within?

Ted





  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-06 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-06  0:47 bug#18967: Tramp disables important SSH security features Daniel Colascione
2014-11-06 12:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-06 16:58   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-06 20:59     ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2014-11-06 23:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07  7:56       ` Michael Albinus
2016-12-13  1:12         ` Glenn Morris
2016-12-13  8:36           ` Michael Albinus
2016-12-13 20:04             ` Glenn Morris
2016-12-18  8:51               ` Michael Albinus
2016-12-19 17:02                 ` Glenn Morris
2016-12-19 18:37                   ` Michael Albinus
2016-12-21 11:44                     ` Michael Albinus

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