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[130.87.89.125]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 16sm98059973pfy.4.2016.11.29.18.59.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:59:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5b913ac1-94ef-c0c1-765a-f39bed313840@gmail.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel"'s message of "Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:48:07 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126284 Archived-At: Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel writes: > Could we fix the manual instead? Or do we have evidence that all modes > that use temporary buffers visiting files set buffer-file-name to nil > to prevent these buffers from being listed? They shouln't automatically set `buffer-file-name', that is up to the user. Indeed, as Eli said, temporary buffers has such variable set to nil. Ibuffer doesn't show the buffer ' foo' visiting a file by default. Well, that is customizable using `ibuffer-maybe-show-predicates'. A prefix argument in `ibuffer-update' toggle this variable. One user might intentionally or accidentaly change the name of a buffer visiting a file. If we don't show it in `list-buffers' the user might believe that the file has being deleted. IMO one buffer visiting a file is always relevant; it's better if we show it.