From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30215: Visiting files from zip archives should not modify directory time Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 23:28:32 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87tvv5u0zj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87mv157e8f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83h8rco7cg.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvvc8ds1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zi53m6za.fsf@gnu.org> <87efmfuegl.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o9limx84.fsf@gnu.org> <87mv114nwp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834ln9m4or.fsf@gnu.org> <87mv0z0zq3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83shapj3ry.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517174924 1756 195.159.176.226 (28 Jan 2018 21:28:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:28:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 30215@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 28 22:28:39 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efuV5-00083a-FY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 22:28:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efuX4-0000sn-NB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:30:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efuWb-0000at-Gv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efuWY-0001vF-Ct for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efuWY-0001v7-99 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efuWX-0004g3-VM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:30:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30215 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30215-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30215.151717496617912 (code B ref 30215); Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:30:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30215) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2018 21:29:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efuVy-0004eq-56 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:29:26 -0500 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:50450 helo=homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efuVw-0004ei-DZ for 30215@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:29:24 -0500 Original-Received: from homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB01C258067; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:29:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m91-129-109-224.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.109.224]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B676258066; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:29:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83shapj3ry.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 28 Jan 2018 19:23:45 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:142625 Archived-At: >> >> Creation of a backup file is not a problem, because backups are cre= ated >> >> on saving. >> > >> > What about auto-saving in general, and the new auto-save-visited-mod= e >> > in particular? >>=20 >> The default value of `auto-save-visited-interval' is 5 seconds, but th= e >> time of extracting a file from the archive is measured in microseconds= . > > "Microseconds"? Does that include very large files? what about > archives on remote machines? When enabling =E2=80=98auto-save-visited-mode=E2=80=99 doesn't mean the w= ish to auto-save everything after 5 seconds of idle time, then =E2=80=98auto-save-visited-mode=E2=80=99 should have a filter to exclude = some files such as archives by name or by mode from auto-saving because currently there is no other way to disable =E2=80=98auto-save-visited-mode=E2=80=99 other= than stop its timer. IOW, this can be addressed in a separate request when necessary. BTW, I noticed another 2 places that needed the same change and fixed the= m.