From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 00:20:03 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87tv78g2jw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <8ea0a3fa-5169-4493-bd54-3ebe47836a35@default> <87r3i9nped.fsf@gnus.org> <87wps1m7co.fsf@web.de> <87y4chjdop.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8ys3131.fsf@gnus.org> <875zjx6hs6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sgmy3x22.fsf@gnus.org> <871rugbqmy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87d0dxyh7z.fsf@gnus.org> <53c55db5-d623-4946-af2e-d141e7bc7acd@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="218539"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 17272@debbugs.gnu.org, 19064@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 12 23:21:24 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeXL-000uhV-Rl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:21:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40012 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeXK-0001ce-2v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:21:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39967) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeX2-0001c5-MH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:21:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeX1-0004bB-LC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:21:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeX0-0004b1-IT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeX0-0007yB-63 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 19064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19064.157359725230591 (code B ref 19064); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2019 22:20:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58555 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeWp-0007xG-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:20:51 -0500 Original-Received: from black.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.19]:19697) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUeWn-0007x2-8w; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:20:50 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD0F212B6; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-6-183.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.6.183]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6E606215A9; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:20:47 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Stretch-Hook: 16603b257be0682f_1573597247692_3134534366 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573597247691:3597698131 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573597247691 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDF783340; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:20:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=AQ/oPgYTdsY097KWUX/9UNLuHNw=; b= T1s1Ne+b8Zf7+kU8OTOBvLw3xMNlBX0Y6aUl5iuCaBc2migqWx4RefMzk3LjSfO1 +nkq5uTBHn7rY0NO9C93QcFAK+M4HQn73EKwbgWehZcPBVOSMvwKmztPwRHYORMG lHVO6Fal5RuVz1OjqVl4e0LW2WqFIT1u2I5swRS/hL8= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2FEA8333E; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:20:38 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a63 In-Reply-To: <53c55db5-d623-4946-af2e-d141e7bc7acd@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:34:45 +0000 (UTC)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171474 Archived-At: > `message', unlike `minibuffer-message', not only > interrupts input (switching to the echo area). > By doing so it also takes over that complete space. > > Yes, that hides your input temporarily - but that's > the point. No, `message' hides your input not temporarily, but permanently. That's the problem. And `minibuffer-message' fixes it both ways: when the minibuffer is active, it displays the message at the end of the minibuffer for 2 seconds. When the minibuffer is not active, it displays the message in the echo area for 2 seconds (the timeout is configurable). > (`message' also logs messages, which can be very > important.) `minibuffer-message' logs messages as well. > Don't stop _callers_ from determining the > appropriate behavior. If a caller uses > `message' then respect that. If the caller > does something stupid then fix the caller. Callers will be able to determine the appropriate behavior using new variable like `display-messages-in-minibuffer'.