From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:08:47 -0800 Message-ID: <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22678"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 23 19:09:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZW-0005oR-Qk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 19:09:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44922 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZV-0004L0-Km for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:09:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57556) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZL-0004Ko-89 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42572) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZK-0002By-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZK-0003MJ-4D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.160874693712900 (code B ref 45330); Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2020 18:08:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54118 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZF-0003M0-D5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:08:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:36526 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZD-0003Lm-6o for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08408FDF48; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:08:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1608746929; bh=3aWZjs6XwmlTgyZQj1BTr1ASCC10AuzUDEu46VR3ipo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QEB3EypkDaZwnwJSiVJgX2ZsSK8e89UIUDZX/RpVN4Op0GOOXZ0JkX+kIEYfrxJed T9RvFmR6ABpQdjAmylJRQ1Cn6upT+1iRARr5QBZ4y/4Hc8mhpYUAb0YIpFMfvlX6Ic Ya5V3pZGuKOQOTraQUyrISJu2Aum7Lc1Gr+L7uqw= In-Reply-To: <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:23:25 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196628 Archived-At: On 12/23/20 06:23 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Oh hang on, it looks like that took me several tries to get right, >> in a81223aeaa, 87b7c06958, a34216351f, and then finally ae76ce57cf, > > Wow... It was embarrassing. >> in which it looks like I was confident that checking >> `gnus-registry-enabled' was sufficient to ensure that the registry was >> actually an object. Give me a second to figure out why that's not >> true. > > Ok, please keep me informed :-) So it's pretty clear: `gnus-registry-initialize' in effect looks like this: (defun gnus-registry-initialize () (gnus-registry-install-hooks) -> (setq gnus-registry-enabled t) (if (gnus-alive-p) (gnus-registry-load) (add-hook 'gnus-read-newsrc-el-hook #'gnus-registry-load))) So in your case `gnus-registry-enabled' is set to t, but then `gnus-registry-load' is never called (because Gnus is neither alive, nor loaded later). I suppose it's still reasonable to set `gnus-registry-enabled' in this way -- the registry is, in fact, "enabled", it simply hasn't gotten loaded (the naming problem again!). Perhaps the formatting functions should go back to the earlier, more explicit check of `eieio-object-p'. Bleagh. Eric