From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41403: A more user-friendly version of GNU Emacs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:57:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuicwqlg.fsf@igel.home> References: <1572340523.1158427.1589893725280.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1572340523.1158427.1589893725280@mail.yahoo.com> <87lflny20s.fsf@web.de> <87zgsbtaqr.fsf@gnus.org> <8735q2t3d9.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee9hy9ce.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7edwm3r.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18160"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andrew Goh , 41403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 22 17:58:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4dj-0004VM-BP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38694 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4dh-0003kr-NL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4dG-0003kf-Is for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4dG-0007bi-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4dF-0006lN-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:58:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41403 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41403-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41403.163232624125928 (code B ref 41403); Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41403) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 15:57:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4cb-0006k6-5c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:52973) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mT4cY-0006jw-On for 41403@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HF2x90t3qz1sDRD; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HF2x85KMQz1qqkC; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:57:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pWw_by3WZiE5; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:57:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: xkh36sZqeh9WXGecW4FNVc52wEr6rP9wa9WZnAj9hFq8ZPu6N9jdyLhs+k2swFW/ Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-176-100.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.176.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:57:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 595672C25A2; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:57:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: HOW could a GLASS be YELLING?? In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 22 Sep 2021 16:41:40 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215093 Archived-At: On Sep 22 2021, Stefan Kangas wrote: > (Many users move meta to the "cmd" key (⌘), because it is much more > ergonomic on an Apple keyboard. I have no idea why this isn't the > default.) I guess you have to ask Apple why they swapped the Alt and Cmd keys on their keyboards. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."