From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53776: Modeline indicator when using define-minor-mode Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 13:52:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87tudc2m3n.fsf@gmx.net> References: <87v8xun5ss.fsf@rub.de> <2qvgePp1-X8z9KUXXka3Sv4Cy2yj9mgatR8NS8E2VIe1ijRsHK9FNYTgnDVa-5_B1eeSofCm97AnsdYunXTn41Yixq5Ecg_rD35upiG3oec=@protonmail.com> <87r18in49c.fsf@rub.de> <87iltsmzn9.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23171"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 53776@debbugs.gnu.org, goncholden To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 06 13:55:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nGh4P-0005rU-4j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 06 Feb 2022 13:52:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87iltsmzn9.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 06 Feb 2022 04:39:54 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Ctsq25kUvjYNUDjdIClanRvFejvlnKh2Rf7rhnFQiwPt05HFn1g 7F/Hz1noHoy3ClMK519xz9Pfmx9Lv72e7GHogZgMj6QLAg99y74pzaZR8i76a6nBhotSNpk eNZ8gquQEb1yxMkIC+R9bAl82N3yhDqc+7qhydcM28xObMuEX5YD+/koQam8GYKEOPRsCLd NqcNfkmniAWQZNYUQ+5hg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cAJqaeJ0kos=:w6SqF4ik545cGuEK0mN3tP 8hE3J1973tHLEPaIhGfTwTgQFRis/zM7YMkF7wyVwSfZ75toXkLw/zb+BMKSmcxAeE0HQpiBI ST8fHGdDLVid0i7imeqwt2kMRf1bsba0Ote9UL7x3xshjgwI9HGzQGm/2ms0MbP2ylGUvNp2h R/G3Cuy9Tlq6jUSLvcw17KFUsDVtZ3ekyPGQtBa8RO5mb8MpuNM2IdA5A9y7lUKUePLrh5ECK VjtHrGvN+FmsWXHmWoldPaInMUpH+JjVdYhbQDKVbXKwmcl68FFwelcVy9CHVGyUwUGLq2+tA 8DipbK81Gqc8nbB+um2YxgOtA8F9iUzj1JpzTOTCazWwzbs5xeHZ/yuHdvN5pBDsL/45sA42a 5aR81inOjmA3moOkCeAZZnmvtEZgnFKeb2TvRlwZcpoxflKv2mhEblha9RWNNQFutIW+yDBgL kjeY7Tgd47kfM5NHrQvXUoJZpvejIfSCQLHbSBvZ4ogwZtkZuwqDGd+M81U3EWQjdGq8n5KMu ZaNWVkfomyPBVmJ/2Zoq/C8tQmGZyHVqujKD1CldisN3yFldHU0hbAH0ZYdUVBQBcyPPbs8ha 23LI6vOvnHwxOKjCEjo1la2FXn7FUa/9gpnhwZ3MfMYGtDEtXCNUNkASQe+eoup4dYUcgbYYZ LqlyvQZpnzPBCWDv9H6EAZL896s74LoYBMCKbtlNlOlP1dOkfBhjGMtBdvBz6Vb+qUoNGpbI/ Qv8B4jymnbP9xxm2zQK6JdtXFIMTESXyWKGPaEFVnwByj+TjLWP1rfylLCNkhnYDnobIiy3p X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:226150 Archived-At: On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 04:39:54 +0100 Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: [...] > Maybe goncholden wants to visualize alternative "submodes". That's > possible: the :lighter can be any modeline construct so you can do > anything here the modeline supports, e.g. using :eval. See the > definition of `emacs-lock-mode' for an example. > >> An alternative, which might be easier to implement (for someone who >> knows how, not me), would be to make the mode line horizontally >> scrollable. But maybe that's not so easy, since it seems so obviously >> useful, yet hasn't been implemented. > > It's not hard to achieve, no. But it replaces something that is too > crowded to be useful with something scrollable that is too crowded to be > useful. I tried it once and was very disappointed - a modeline you need > to scroll to see everything is worse than using a help command like C-h > m. Nevertheless, I would be interested in trying it and seeing the code. Can you post it? Thanks, Steve Berman