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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1661545070; bh=NiQqH7NcrqTtPLDVTAYI1eN+HpwkUm4kFe0EKqDNsBg=; h=Message-ID:References:Date:Reply-To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; b=YrpnpiEIWO40xu4hDy/OavJJc56HYKwbgRmyFCH5HaccQKiKdhzG+esXtAM+ueMWO iD3jBnNpbAdwPnOhJuEW29IVvdEdwC+BlvqA0Yz9hqJeovuF35+eC7i8CzW1WVKIIZ MItawPELIHumqKK1CA7oQRDDmV1zYLbxIN6sPDkQ= Authentication-Results: iva3-6d6b5ab252da.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier via's message of "Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:14:40 -0400") X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjItMDgtMTZUMTI6MDA6NTYrMDE6MDCRhRhWAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:240861 Archived-At: >>>>> Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors writes: > Colin Baxter [2022-08-26 20:00:40] wrote: >> Yes, I understand that and agree. From my perspective, I am >> disappointed that candidates for obsolescence seem to be chosen >> from libraries that are useful and not from morse, zone and the >> like. > Those that are useful but suffer from corner-case problems due to > the underlying design are bound to fall into this trap: if they > weren't very useful, noone would bother to reimplement them to fix > those corner cases but since the problems stem from the underlying > approach, the fix requires a significant rewrite which inevitably > leads to a slightly different featureset. > The purpose of obsoleting a library like `nlinum.el` is to > help/encourage people to move to the better options out there (and > sometimes also to discover important use-cases not yet covered by > the new code). > The maintenance cost of `nlinum.el` isn't very high, but there's a > cost for users of having to choose between various options, none > of which is a strict superset of the other. I am not convinced. However thank you nevertheless for taking the time and effort to explain. Best wishes,