From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57890: 28.1; Doc string of `initial-frame-alist' Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:49:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87tu553qkg.fsf@gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24296"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 57890@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 18 12:50:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrsW-000699-Um for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:50:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58208 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrsV-0003mI-SQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 06:50:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrsF-0003m7-15 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 06:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrsA-00071l-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 06:50:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrsA-00076Q-BT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 06:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 10:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57890 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57890-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57890.166349818727273 (code B ref 57890); Sun, 18 Sep 2022 10:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57890) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2022 10:49:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47928 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrrv-00075o-AX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 06:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrrt-00075X-FU for 57890@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 06:49:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=x2Km+FQ7wcsZi8+9PC8qePZSgRfiNnhaSLwrb+YEj9Q=; b=MPWyDYs7Sp+aDP9AXJELymg2AF wm30RzaakrmV1qx2lAxfT5nFdKsmcok+1ez/IwqCVDmICqIBEADaDGODMZAXed0EvlbMFBSu4qOxS hioOYhJCQ+C9dTI+s14nKav8KNgIELp2WYyXpauFHsDfCNdixXEcHWlL4/Y3zV8vrhuY=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZrrk-0006u8-En; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:49:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 17 Sep 2022 22:22:05 +0000") X-Now-Playing: Stephan Mathieu's _Radiance (12): Pacific_: "Pacific" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242952 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > The doc string seems to suggest that the option, or its use, somehow > depends on X resources: > > ... If you want the initial frame > to have the proper geometry as soon as it appears, you need to > use this three-step process: > * Specify X resources to give the geometry you want. > * Set 'default-frame-alist' to override these options so that they > don't affect subsequent frames. > * Set 'initial-frame-alist' in a way that matches the X resources, > to override what you put in 'default-frame-alist'. > > That text is not introduced by anything saying, e.g., IF you are > using X resources or by saying that this 3-step process is > applicable only if you can use X resources. At least some of it > doesn't make sense without X resources, AFAIK. And isn't this advice outdated now anyway? The easiest way to specify initial-frame-alist is to adjust it in `early-init-file', I think?