From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Markus Triska Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70326: 30.0.50; Backup Files documentation does not match observed behaviour Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:53:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87ttk9ujzy.fsf@metalevel.at> References: <86h6g9ul5s.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7271"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 70326@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 10 20:55:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rud6Y-0001g5-3R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:55:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rud6A-0004Nf-GM; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rud65-0004NP-KX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rud64-0004a6-7f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rud6C-0003VP-Ff for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:55:08 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:55:08 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70326 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 70326-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70326.171277526312288 (code B ref 70326); Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:55:08 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70326) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2024 18:54:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rud5R-0003Am-AK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [78.47.144.35] (port=60314 helo=metalevel.at) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rud5A-00035I-3z for 70326@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:54:15 -0400 Original-Received: by metalevel.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE279C76F; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:53:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <86h6g9ul5s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:28:47 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283064 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > "C-x C-w" is not "saving the file from a buffer". "C-h c" says that > "C-x C-w runs the command write-file". So I don't see anything wrong > with what the manual says. To reproduce the issue, you can also type a letter and then use C-x C-s (i.e., save-buffer), and observe the same effect: A backup file is not created, even though a file is saved for the first time from a buffer. All the best, Markus