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From: Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com>
To: Deniz Dogan <deniz@dogan.se>
Cc: 11697@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11697: 24.1.50; ERC scroll-to-bottom functionality 'broken' in emacs 24.1.x
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:03:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjdxobbh.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FDA4EBC.2080703@dogan.se> (Deniz Dogan's message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:08 +0200")

14/06/12 22:51, Deniz Dogan
>>> Firstly, I agree with you completely that scrolltobottom needs
>>> improvements.  I can't be sure why they changed the behavior, since
>>> the new method is clearly inferior, but I believe it's because
>>> window-scroll-functions is never meant to change "the way the window
>>> is scrolled".
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm responsible for the mess. Sorry, I don't customize
>> erc-input-line-position, and it didn't occur to me that it might mess
>> things up. I tried to think of something better for erc-scrolltobottom,
>> but I'm not familiar with erc internals and that was the best I could
>> do. The reason for the change was that as you said,
>> window-scroll-functions is not intended to be used like that, and it
>> caused weird bugs.
>>
>>> I've monkey-patched ERC myself to handle the whole thing better.  I've
>>> attached the Lisp.  Just evaluate all the code and you'll be all
>>> set. (I know it's not production-quality code, but it does the job and
>>> relieves you from ever thinking about it again.)
>>
>> Great! Could you submit a proper patch, so that Someone (tm; there seems
>> to be a lack of maintainers for ERC) can review it and merge it into
>> trunk? erc-scrolltobottom has been broken for years, with weird bugs and
>> excessive CPU consumption, and it's high time it changed.
>>
>
> The excessive CPU consumption comes from the fact that it nowadays
> uses post-command-hook, which is executed just about all the time.  :)

I don't think so, I had excessive CPU consumption before the code used
post-command-hook (main way to trigger is to hold a random key down
while watching the result of top. It's already appalling in ERC without
erc-scrolltobottom, but it's even worth with it).

The way I see it, this scrolltobottom thing is a problem that is global
to emacs and has nothing to do with ERC in particular. For instance, I
also want my shell buffers not to scroll past the end of
buffers. Actually I think (but am not sure ; it would require testing)
I'd want all buffers to behave that way, and never, ever display
anything past the end of the buffer. An ideal solution would be a local
variable, that'd inhibit "bad" recentering (and therefore would not
incur any performance loss, as I believe the main loss is when a hook
recenters after it has already been recentered). But that's more
ambitious.





  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-14 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-13 16:22 bug#11697: 24.1.50; ERC scroll-to-bottom functionality 'broken' in emacs 24.1.x Brian Fransioli
2012-06-13 20:03 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-06-14  7:35   ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-06-14  9:49   ` Antoine Levitt
2012-06-14 20:51     ` Deniz Dogan
2012-06-14 21:03       ` Antoine Levitt [this message]
2012-06-14 21:10         ` Deniz Dogan
2012-06-15  2:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-15  6:49           ` Antoine Levitt
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2844.1339743011.855.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-02-08  5:06             ` maden.ldm

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