From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jameson Graef Rollins Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7842: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug 7842) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:51:41 -0800 Message-ID: <87sj50m4hu.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> References: <8739owi45n.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87zjzfpx5j.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87txpnpwqb.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83fw178ah5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360782825 7618 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2013 19:13:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7842@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 20:14:06 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hmO-0003TH-QE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:14:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53068 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hm5-0001FU-34 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:13:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35219) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hlu-0001Du-Nk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:13:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hlp-0000yI-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:13:34 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49076) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hlp-0000yE-7X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:13:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hmL-0007dv-Kf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:14:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jameson Graef Rollins Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 7842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7842.136078280329329 (code B ref 7842); Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2013 19:13:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54540 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hlj-0007d0-CD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:13:23 -0500 Original-Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu ([131.215.239.19]:60969) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hlg-0007co-76 for 7842@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:13:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fire-doxen.imss.caltech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire-doxen-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE3632885C; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:12:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from finestructure.net (DHCP-123-224.caltech.edu [131.215.123.224]) (Authenticated sender: jrollins) by fire-doxen-submit (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAA832888B; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by finestructure.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF03862219; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:51:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83fw178ah5.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.15+8~gd4a7374 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71201 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, Feb 08 2013, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Yes, but that requires writing to a temporary file. Avoiding that was >> the entire point of my feature request. > > Why do you want to avoid it? What is the problem with using this > method? For the exact same reasons you don't just send stdout to a temporary file. It is exactly the same issue. Pretty much the whole point of call-process is that it captures stdout to a buffer. But somehow the logic that applies to stdout does not apply to stderr? That makes no sense. If we feel it's important that users be able to capture stdout into a buffer, then we should be able to capture stderr into a buffer for exactly the same reasons. >> Is there some technical reason that it's impossible to just capture >> the stderr to a separate buffer? > > It's possible, but it will complicate the API which is already quite > complicated and hard to maintain for every platform Emacs supports. This also seems like a really bad justification for closing this as "won't fix". It may be difficult, but it's still a legitimate feature request. jamie. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRG+C9AAoJEO00zqvie6q8gjwP/R70OrA+x+ZUIrf0/EjI3M9q DD5ZSMBmtvYZUqrefdcYorR7F9PZ9L3hiA5miXiJSFV5T0HFGerjxAOOT7+tSJum C/vBiFmdbWAZucq0dcK0W55btFLm58ntwJsjMp7D1QDoXKeOZgfopCgDbHlt72V0 Il8B470VchIKeQZki2qAC5eHxPNlWXbL4O6FWPjQZbOig+rmusS+tuv9QREiuKFO zKB+wgdpnT/8rzaPT4fqXNx9xPQ/ZJLrvbt7Saogs/118r62JTjS/fUN9pEpkkRW CCIeYPAV5DcqzTPuPDgL0NQyp6Nw7e9MnMlMxkeBw9s9YddBdqOJLUwq9l90ZD6F Kd2F58N/acmp2zhW9Eayq0EMai70h/TN5a1zrRgTKZNlAJ+db99QF/B+qpWBnFp0 O6/SWdZiLtdiyxzdwf3wrzWmMUoYpy3DcEuYquZ2QLMi3IN+gmkuqwdIR7O/G2O0 0+5CtxYeg7tRHGQlwj9RXdhGuAaCLi6u0qlkaCrzsVh9u5EI1c8dzUY8Rol767Zr Yule2qIiAK6flHCNvCUEJ0Moj8fJnVuApkJv4H1sfvUqrQh83nfxVIpBlVqxisB7 hhxS6Rac16EUokaKudEkw7TMGIebWO5JFh8CELhLs79tWCL8/04CJfiYc6THUcWW 45Fm+uvMkxZ5jlQN8MeK =ehjp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--