From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16071: Erc re-binds [home] even if not beginning-of-line Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:26:11 +0000 Message-ID: <87siu56dks.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <871u1q6wi4.fsf@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386355278 22922 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2013 18:41:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:41:18 +0000 (UTC) To: 16071@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 19:41:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp0Ky-0001sx-KD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 19:41:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32825 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp0Ky-0006V4-8B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:41:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38521) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp0Kp-0006SB-86 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:41:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp0Kk-0002xn-PB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:41:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48784) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp0Kk-0002xR-H3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:41:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp07C-00026P-Gz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:27:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16071 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16071-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16071.13863543828029 (code B ref 16071); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16071) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2013 18:26:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp06Y-00025Q-FD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:26:22 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:55017) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp06W-00025I-Kt for 16071@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:26:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=Po7Fn3Amyh1XhRI8Nr2mhJda2zQBXAigyK+02QvrFF4=; b=BxQ65/DSMqTYyGozkgv+7vSyVDeaNMRVlGjoB1HPCsUkwd7deIiwDoDtCmfjac78IzOxhrvEbe+5JaVnfPet3dXlc9rv4JVYa37hJPnR93foG+8PhTBRXYgMCzJwe798UcM8YBKBlWbpofLizffTwRFC6QujawFe+CiQDshoWhU=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp06V-00017G-GH for 16071@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:26:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp06O-0002ZX-Ih for 16071@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:26:12 +0700 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:59:01 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81556 Archived-At: >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >> As of 0dd4ebbcf94d, erc-mode-map unconditionally binds both C-a and >> Home to erc-bol. Which is problematic, as: > Good points. > But please note that doing it with remap is intrusive because the > user may actually like to have a key bound to beginning-of-line. Indeed, it=E2=80=99s intrusive either way. > I guess rebinding with substitute-key-definition is OK. Does that mean binding only to the sequences which are beginning-of-line in global-map /and/ also not overridden by the user in erc-mode-map, or something like that? As per my reading of substitute-key-definition, it implies more or less the same effect as the use of [remap] with define-key. --=20 FSF associate member #7257