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Jackson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16764: 24.3.50; Insertion point stops flashing when Emacs not hung -- please reconsider this new default behaviour Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:45:33 -0400 Message-ID: <87sirigxea.fsf@moondust.localdomain> References: <871tz4w85g.fsf@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392612436 10211 80.91.229.3 (17 Feb 2014 04:47:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:47:16 +0000 (UTC) To: 16764@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 17 05:47:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFG70-0001av-Pl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:47:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37662 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFG70-0002pY-D3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:47:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45229) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFG6o-0002pE-Ow for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:47:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFG6g-0005Je-BV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFG6g-0005JT-8B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFG6f-0003yL-Rs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:47:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. 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[142.176.57.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm41790201qat.6.2014.02.16.20.45.34 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:45:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:18:45 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85709 Archived-At: At 23:18 -0400 on Sunday 2014-02-16, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Unless there is a good reason for turning it off, I would like to >> request that you consider leaving it on by default. > > Applications shouldn't keep running code indefinitely when they're > completely idle. It's important for powersaving reasons. Agreed. Turning it off after five seconds might be a bit aggressive though. Perhaps all you fast-thinking Emacs developers rarely pause in your typing for longer than that, but I wouldn't consider a mere mortal idle if they paused to think for a full twenty or thirty seconds! Of course, it's one of those things where whatever default value you choose, it's going to be the wrong one for most people. In any case, being aware now of the reasons for the change has persuaded me not to set blink-cursor-blinks to 0. For my set up, I have chosen a value of 180.