From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21709: 25.0.50; doc of :variable in `define-minor-mode' Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:48:14 -0400 Message-ID: <87si567qk1.fsf@fastmail.com> References: <131df705-9c27-4cb5-940e-755ea2635031@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445274387 4460 80.91.229.3 (19 Oct 2015 17:06:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC) To: 21709@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 19:06:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDt0-0005fQ-Ax for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:06:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41072 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDsz-0001wO-Dp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:06:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55068) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDst-0001uA-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDsp-0002sH-AJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38042) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDso-0002ry-Nc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDso-0007RI-F0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <131df705-9c27-4cb5-940e-755ea2635031@default> Resent-From: Random832 Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21709 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.144527431928545 (code B ref -1); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2015 17:05:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56983 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs6-0007QL-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs4-0007QD-Va for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs1-0002de-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:16 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs1-0002da-1r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs0-00013q-5x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDru-0002cD-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDru-0002ag-Bo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDrs-0004me-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +0200 Original-Received: from c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([68.39.146.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +0200 Original-Received: from random832 by c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5WUSqsp/CNezULO+m6i80zt08eg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:107766 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Surely the function does not "set" a "state". It might set the > variable to a new value (but it does not "set" the value). A state could be a single variable, it could be a dozen variables, it could be a file on the disk [which GET reads and SET writes] - the point is to have an abstraction that doesn't care what it is. Seems like what it really is is a "hackish" way to define a generalized variable without actually defining one. A sort of "generalized variable lambda" except for the fact that setf doesn't actually support it.