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Mon, 20 Aug 2018 02:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r30-v6sm18497312wrc.90.2018.08.20.02.49.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Aug 2018 02:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <87woszchfm.fsf@aol.com> (Live System User's message of "Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:18:37 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:149615 Archived-At: Live System User writes: >> Then how do you expect emacs to know that for those 2 particular >> servers it should prompt straight away? > > Because (I believe) that the protocol requires a "password" or > certificate. That=CA=BCs unfortunately not the way SMTP authentication works, it=CA=BCs = very much optional (and some servers change their authentication requirements based on the recipient of the mail you=CA=BCre trying to send). > >> Or are you asking for a >> generic 'if AUTH in capabilities then prompt username and password' >> feature? > > I'm requesting to restore the capability that > `smtpmail-auth-credentials' provided previously. > >> >>> Previously, one used `smtpmail-auth-credentials' for this. >> >> Which as Eli points out needed to be stored somewhere as well. > > But it doesn't have to be stored on *disk*. > > It can be defined anew each Emacs session and thus only "stored" > in *memory*. I would find it very annoying to have to do that, but to each his own. I doubt that having the username in memory is any more secure than having it in an encrypted file. Having said that, there might be a case that smtpmail should prompt for authentication if smtpmail-smtp-user is set even without a corresponding .authinfo setting. I=CA=BCll take a look. Robert