From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Beatrix Klebe <beeuhtricks@gmail.com>,
bea@klebe.blog, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
33794@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33794: 26.1; electric-pair-mode breaks auto-newline minor mode of cc-mode
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:55:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sgypmasb.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181222221540.GC3935@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:15:40 +0000")
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> Right now, João's direction of travel seems to be to cement
> electric-pair-mode's unusability in modes like CC Mode, of which there
> are quite a few. I hope I've misunderstood this and I'm mistaken.
You are. In fact, I'm coming up with alternatives so that
electric-pair-mode works with CC-Mode, even if the user or some other
mode customizes it to not use c-electric-{brace,paren}.
You may say that I am not working actively to make e-p-m work with
c-toggle-auto-newline, which *in my opinion* is a part of CC-mode that
could and should someday be fulfilled by electric-layout-mode. That is
100% true. But I am not preventing anyone from taking on that task, or
even suggesting it's trivial or very hard. I just don't know, and I
have no interest in studying this alternative.
That is quite different from "cementing an unusability".Have a look at
my recent commits in scratch/fix-33794-extend-electric-layout-mode and
you will see that I have done 0 changes to e-p-m.
Also, can you once and for all describe the "unusabilities" in other
modes you keep talking about???
>> Yes, Alan disagrees with this. In his view, electric- modes are abusing
>> the semantics of post-self-insert-hook. Well, at least in my view of
>> his views :-)
>
> Please don't misrepresent me like that.
Really, I didn't. But OK, I will think thrice before writing "Alan
thinks" sentences.
> The point is that the electric-... modes abuse not so much the
> post-self-insert-hook (although they do),
So, in reality I didn't misrepresent you.
> but they totally break self-insert-command. You have had several
> hours to contest this, but by your silence appear to have accepted it.
How can I contest or accept that which I have no opinion of? I'm not an
expert in the teleology of self-insert-command! Find someone who is to
discuss this!
Frankly: "my silence"... I'm not taking that bait, OK? Really, Alan,
please please understand that I am only trying to make
electric-layout-mode work a bit better, and not even touching any of its
basic functioning vis-a-vis self-insert-command.
João
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-18 17:38 bug#33794: 26.1; electric-pair-mode breaks auto-newline minor mode of cc-mode Beatrix Klebe
[not found] ` <mailman.5894.1545155289.1284.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-12-21 13:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-21 13:57 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-21 16:00 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-21 18:49 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 19:06 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-21 19:20 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 19:24 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 19:43 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 1:08 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 2:16 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 2:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 3:22 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 4:41 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 10:02 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 12:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-01-01 19:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-01-15 16:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-21 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 0:45 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 10:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 13:47 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 21:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-22 16:34 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-22 17:34 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 21:19 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 22:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 22:55 ` João Távora [this message]
2018-12-23 20:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <20181223202143.GA6658@ACM>
2018-12-23 21:38 ` João Távora
2018-12-23 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-28 12:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-23 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-23 14:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
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