From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38079: On Windows tramp hangs after server-start is called Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:51:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87sgmyvm9d.fsf@gmx.de> References: <0bf97a5e-549f-1e8a-4212-5b08ad05f049@gmail.com> <83a799gfbp.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0b89e3-ec38-6917-21c3-af35ece4a63f@gmail.com> <83sgn0g9j5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="256848"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Wanrong Lin , 38079@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 08:52:27 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSz4F-0014hi-8j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1573199505; bh=UfL1CA6Skh4WnhP0iAGFplEmeevGfiCGjIvUc04wmz0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Po5PmgjfBZ6McnuXu+ybKQLcRPS0uca2h6lin7Kki9xl4EZKc9Dlxiex4GNKm9JrI 6JtRUjZtJxrw65VCz6BByDpZnQfzFuXIOUVwPXUT6eF9jLYBKpGmqB+Zz0tJYiJrJD ao2wza5J1nM9BZhq43iSNpaRpbgT680PjM+h//Ms= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([217.70.140.254]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M8hZD-1iX5mr3tLt-004lzr; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:51:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83sgn0g9j5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:11:10 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gGgLVgrFTE8lcerfGDokGERvXtij0a1Bx8a4P9GuS156nPTd3Ob z9g+iu37yVrEv7n/njB39MpXm5t6tvqcdc8S+wzTHffJ9dzjwBAytx8pt8Yirg6bGAFgGd1 jPYhKXBFAPY/g5F54CJHnkRPosZMVG0mW99ClfoLD5MgMOBI929CLWF+pYrjL1enwCiMzNT 8Bo/SwpSd52UbjB5xsaNQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Y9LS44iAGyM=:eFEi7gzxTyEq+ZNdftAGGH roD+pRmHD6AAy7szZ7owyNk3J6ubMaBYzeYSDzeyF7dqq6jpAFR5ZdbwoKYW5qXt8q52RRT72 eE5+x/bGXzyuDUBMqCkw4Q2AC6coe4VIiDFtW3750O/AGJu4FrXbJYl9Es8elCceZefQK5vW1 cKojPrHMs3Wfd/I2aWR6J73ADMMXpU9OTaFlAW/062KqL5OLdbhTFuQQMjgmXRJAI828X5Xt9 9X3T8O43PL4MNM/QFMCtqlS1+9uOia5/oD0Y0pamrmaDElyjiES44DPdcvkO68PLJPjn5z0Kf G5r6rUBKl/+JFstfoAOWCbWHly6DbNCESpbngRKsB/NTAb886sVomNxV1+LDmDQWI309W9U/P /FBM1TT1g/iFJOd8wbdlgXRwYwamIo99K76FfHtIyI3Ey87YgGo8/akYPlwRTRhvwyKTUoGUr CBMG3IX7eM6o3ALRoWjpu7jII6sQk+p/0gfVZLt++h2DE6G0EdPrCZZWMMf8nIPYSp3YnqyZw F5JXG9Oyof+URMXUc4M5+J4U9tf3N5yi8sjByghuFQvWBNz7e9EgGin+Xavax2BzGy07c7Skz b9EgHSnNHmtwbPxS/6WSTdiADyCrR4dTulioSV0uI/i7nfmkunA2FyFCklcQxoPxs/0E8AoTR jYt5ZxXll05B3xWJF1xNYoZgfiCSXagMqCLr1KOMZT3uJqgTUnRlH+dza2Jl3NlqOscNq11Pg UNw2A17k9tnHCx9N0rB/+mFSyfEmKynn9/3+qNDPC0CVHMAtRZtEJDBGSr3Y170oNRWG9va7 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171177 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> But I don't understand the underlying difficulty to ensure >> system-name never changes. > > There are two system calls that return this information on Windows, > and they treat the letter-case differently. The second system call > needs the winsock layer to be initialized, and we don't want to do > that at startup because it causes various problems (sorry, I no longer > remember the details of that part). So we only call the network-aware > system call after some network connection is available. Shouldn't we document this in etc/PROBLEMS? I can't write this, because I don't know too much about Emacs on MS Windows. Best regards, Michael.