From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15335: emacs -Q usability Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:21:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87sgk6gvfg.fsf@marxist.se> References: <52302EEA.6090805@easy-emacs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="68751"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 15335@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 23 16:22:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iueJt-000Hq6-Ud for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZUGX1rmsaaVcH1p4a3kSOZO1GJunce/YjhffZsEYZMA=; b=gOGF648mZbxdUgbXClyN45rOVn daUwE2f0SJvGME3ur5//vereFGLrXYe7tu9/PYQamUhsaboRtJ0J8Ny4bswwzZx1QSOEjC7w8kbSq Uwk68/BFnThTxSan1Vzn2Rd16SPkeuzv1sUAfLV+FWr4t/kyKsk43Va5odTQ2I7ezTzkUwSqJsvM0 ywGGyMOhGchekoAlS2XAsDpNoNE/yXKQLBwOaTMQpNoCjWKH5lnIYLkGADeCceWxpFXetI0t4By0b 5cwft4aiKIRI16Ols8LH6QzURiIPme9ER75WaE2PeojiipmXN2GaPg/TIJlaLiCwO8Bk3CDRNfGWY m+eqAqrw==; Original-Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:51872 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iucQX-0016I8-Sd; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:21:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <52302EEA.6090805@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?="'s message of "Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:50:50 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175155 Archived-At: Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: > Emacs -Q opening with scratch buffer is a mistake in most cases. > > Please make Emacs star as general purpose Editor, preferably with an empt= y buffer, > in text- or fundamental mode, where use may see it's input, being offered= to save it etc. > > See also > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18734848/choosing-an-all-purpose-edito= r/18735853 Do new users generally run "emacs -Q" though? I would have assumed that they either just run "emacs" (probably from a menu somewhere), or "emacs ". Best regards, Stefan Kangas