From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40693: 28.0.50; json-encode-alist changes alist Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 02:25:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87sggzatpx.fsf@web.de> References: <7b043ea4-2633-45dc-8e7f-79f86ff00d95@cs.ucla.edu> <87ftcz6re3.fsf@web.de> <83579d76-f2aa-a3f7-3b10-1839199002f1@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="100892"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Ivan Andrus , 40693@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 20 02:28:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQKIu-000Q99-Kn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1587342345; bh=dMiXMwR71CJZS3FxPclJFaF2SbmNti0H25a0RRwXeEo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GHoxh+3Bg8nMrO5WiE+Uji6CHVSAYVGNkcv9fbJbbILVj4JBq3yr1KbeuWPzipHTH xiWZxZUG18cq4MYtAB8Xwu6bwhKPUOT6gKC0Cic5+6p2FoHoec+g2o3ESkN6DUoVR0 OYbBofCCXO8BL42V41ufMKt2fe8OIR0pPZvdUQKA= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.98.99.7]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MF3nL-1jTKPD3OGJ-00GIEN; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 02:25:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83579d76-f2aa-a3f7-3b10-1839199002f1@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:59:59 -0700") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fWARWJg18koN4/hX6AXqp3l+l52m5+VYDBSTBG5XoZclQjmeR6u 9pYYe8Q+/b9A9EUAIvvhZV/haZuXyGsNq1RSPtIVMLPl1MV+5jHweTlsk0xRcYYHPJOvL2X 3yXukqPZYxtREyA0EBflg29UPhSEFzCEo7lyVY7Z/aByyz1Z8VCGNhE9aP062Q9ZmzR2QhH 5kREmbMwxXntNtP1fuiGA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:PKay1Pg/6HM=:2fbqc/gToAFTQ4z5hzV4Zz b0yFHOHSChkb6nUyRPfB8oI45JmF1nTgyE5XPQ0ru0htJ8ZDIshvnNXyLsaVC6oSsYyIwY9yg 9VuKWS46HZoFZ4gmGkN+Sxl0xekdCjoElD4c3WuHqaJv0i5fvpLj6RDFHIwD8c9YBy7JAT6e9 vdyYKapnSm2zDlqXTT61jyDB7N58D9o4wuejT7eOMWKUbZnw2wC33aPyd/DjUQ9vjF1KlLsUq RM50Oo2Zv8pppjHp7IG7KzVlrz6AA0EqnieZRb8iLDtwek8jnq6+i2C8L2LWr9ME+jxV1Vjpb Y9nU5kepP9lOZxTs5UU5G6WLCoKA8QxmLsXVUoXxobPg9Z0vz79QYr8HzzKQQmg2FtajOtVo+ NMOF0DYP9FtcNPPuRMPYaY25IoUQznrHFiCTOdY49OThvvLAW8tYxKwBw+AmZCMK3bX/NmNao dSJFL6uYHKC887EYHVFNK6kl8AzlTAxc4Bj9JCJQMPbkdXkYLdQTRpltttHrJmOyDLbKBZ5p2 T5AfxfZaHrwz8LLK0aHj06ABGyWuUIo01M1sPIiHVawc598jdPoy7bFCu6Rs9XmG/2j1BGyJH TIlczxSQTp4c6isMaH3HLEmUn0LPuPX0HNZmxCnAXUtjAKYLQltwUBpGWZv8d6yDew+GU6Xdf Ci0qkrTB7PIglr5onXogQ97QJSRJDiYukYpgbx7BeuY1L7SYPy6T7ZzFLarj2RK/JizHE9JYH uluEiMaxYuebr5yyjT/yz17LMP0RU3Dwb72XcLEe+TMuRCKYm92uftdvD92gixsXQYquVSve X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178687 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > On 4/19/20 3:29 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > >> - A program should not attempt to modify a constant because the > >> + Modifying a constant symbol signals an error (@pxref{Constant > >> Variables}). > >> +A program should not attempt to modify other types of constants > >> because the > > Do you speak about symbols or the binding of symbols here? > > I meant the symbol's value (what symbol-value returns). I could change > the wording to "Modifying the value of a constant symbol..." This can be confused with variables declared with `defconst' - these are declared constants but it is possible to change their bindings. You are speaking about self-evaluating symbols like nil and t, right? Because all symbols are constants, try to change the symbol `foo', there is no way to change it in any way from Lisp. But you can evaluate it, and the binding is not always the same, unlike self-evaluating symbols like nil or :keyword. Michael.