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Tue, 26 May 2020 16:58:20 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <304f1cd0-045c-4f34-924c-2ae2ca072cc0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 25 May 2020 11:22:10 -0700 (PDT)") DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=laposte.net; s=lpn-wlmd; t=1590505101; bh=3/Vxi6Gtv64QHexYJfus3pd9QkkObaF2KDyFJefNzH4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R+uQ91mUCXeRit2A0uaQQitwFepIJeMtLHkECTaTpBKqZJP2PP3C5H4Pbwaww5ZQUh8z61iIs0w9lao1MmYS7TPaRfMP30VPWLq2QA2vajQmKfe789nQOaPDc6HVvDPST97d8b5+UlgWT+8+cOe9QDVAtBArD4/osykoKE99DPSBGfPRcKEMcuIVJfuHlhjl4V3c50aRa9WZ0YR/JVLHIZHPC8VoBG0G+dx4j2aS1M7v2cYOUsTu5LE82cWTGTX+mEII5EgLShTyc0k540VGascNd8e+FUqtw8dCl0eO91VxX41aq2F6eNCa/xQjdUF2pxsCtt+t5L2xLSw00gP1Hg==; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:181038 Archived-At: The user experience is quite different when browsing the Emacs and LibreOffice menus although they seem similar. The Emacs interface is mainly text-based partly because there are few graphical widgets. Nonetheless, this difference is not always clearly perceived. It can be seen in the following two cases: 1. Menu bar> Tools, Merge, Files... opens a window manager window. 2. Menu bar> Tools, Search Files(Grep)... opens the minibuffer. Moreover, I think people may also confuse a text-based interface having a good appearance with a graphical user interface. The issue may be: - Better describe or explain how to use the mouse in the interface, - Fix the menu so as not to mislead the user, - Rebuild at least partially the Emacs graphical user interface.